Is the psychic community being destroyed?

[UglyNRude]

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TV industry pays millions to psychics to lie
The delusions and/or scams behind unsolved crime and missing person psychic detectives, TV psychics, and TV psychic show producers who make millions fooling the public using actors and actresses.

Testing has shown police dogs have a higher success ratio Compared with the top ten psychic detectives over the past 30 years police dogs hold an approximate 85,000 to 1 chance of finding a missing person alive over the psychics and a 640,000 to 1 chance of finding a missing person dead or alive more than a year before these psychics --- even on cases up to 30 years old!

Further testing has shown Of 47 tested TV psychics, 47 failed to show any psychic abilities even 0.005% above random chance. More than half actually scored worse than chance!

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[scarygirl67]

Thank you for sharing that.

Make no mistake, I do believe there are people with psychic abilities. I don't believe any of what I have seen as far as the ones who are media hogs though. I was very interested to see that they had a couple of former claimed "psychics" who have come out and admitted their deception. It sounds like before the exposures started coming out from everywhere it was encouraged by others as well.

I think that the "famous" psychic community will take a huge hit (sounds like they already have, with the prices dropping!) and I think those who don't seek fame, fortune, or the like that truly have an ability will remain even more quiet as to not associate themselves with these frauds.

I also think that people are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of any evidence presented. It amazes me how many still think Sylvia Browne is so wonderful when it has been proved she is a fraud.

Again...I do believe there are people with abilities. I also believe that they are every bit as offended and disgusted by those fleecing people out of all that money as I am.

[Goonis38]

This is what I think about this, two things...
1. For sure there are liars, and people who pretend to be something they aren't in every field. This is an easy mark for them, religion is another. I believe because they are both faith based things...
2. Secondly I would say that being a psychic is something that can't be done on command, I would say it is hit, or miss, it comes, and it goes. Like an artist writing a hit song, or me painting something. I love to paint. But I can't do it on command. I also love to write poetry, and yet again, can't do it on command. So if a person is looking for proof, that I am an artist they will have to look back at something from 2006, it's been that long since I have felt the desire... Am i done, by no means. I will pick up that brush again someday...
Now the same with psychic, they feel it some times with some people... Thats why it is so hard to prove, among other reason. Also I would say faith, or believing, in the subject would come from experience... Mel

[UglyNRude]

One thing I will say is I do think there are real psychics, but not many. Now I will say the growth of the paranormal field has help launch the growth of people that claim to be psychic. Of these I think the number of hoaxers is growing at an alarming rate. There is also the ones who are claiming to be psychic because its the in thing to do. Now of these there are actually some who think they are perhaps because of a few coincidences, but the only ability they have is in their mind. So you have to feel sorry for the people who truly have ability.

[Archangel]

Mel: I totally agree on your second point! And during the "harder" times when they get something completely wrong they loose their faith for a little while. Also, some of the words they get the most wrong could later turn out to be the best readings they've ever given... it's just the person they're giving it to has no clue yet. For example: I could say you are gifted at making pottery and you could say you've never done it but 5 years down the road you become famous for it.

[Roland]

Speaking as a just an normal observer most of my life as far as the paranormal community.As a spectator i guess and not involved with any paranormal things or knowing any psychics personally.
I used to hear some radio shows and an occasional TV program but overall not a lot.I knew the name of some of the more well known personalities in this field but overall not much.

All that said.. it seems to me that the paranormal subject's are really kicking in and it's becoming way more popular IMO. i don't know if this is a good thing or not... my honest opinion.
Maybe in my way of thinking it is but i haven't been involved in the inner workings of this field and don't know what effects what positively or negatively.I hope this popularity in the long run helps because i have gotten to meet a lot of you folks here and i know you have concerns.

[Goonis38]

(07-17-2010 10:12 PM)Archangel Wrote:  Mel: I totally agree on your second point! And during the "harder" times when they get something completely wrong they loose their faith for a little while. Also, some of the words they get the most wrong could later turn out to be the best readings they've ever given... it's just the person they're giving it to has no clue yet. For example: I could say you are gifted at making pottery and you could say you've never done it but 5 years down the road you become famous for it.

Thank you... I have loved poetry my whole life, I just need to believe in myself... Just like a lot of things my friend... Your friend Mel

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I wanted to add... I live in the mid-west Bible belt. It would not be something a person could talk about, or admit... I am not gifted myself... But I am friends with some gifted people, and they do not search out to be noticed at all, the people I know with the gift are very private about it. And do not want it exposed or noticed. A lot of them live in fear in my area, and have no one to talk to because some very narrow minded people consider such things to be evil, which of course it is not. That's why this web-site is such a blessing for people with the gift, or even an experience they can't explain like I had and have wrote about in my past. So it is great to have friends who will not judge... Melanie

[sundayangelmona]

Awful..I already made a similar topic about testing psychics and their scams.The are using information from internet or somewhere where is a help from all kind of people who can access to data from customers.They all get their part because we are talking about a lot of money.Their services are too expensive.
Also I know that there are some mediums that really worth but I don't believe that they will make a show on TV.

[Haunted Lady]

From the standpoint of a psychic, I will say that personally I don't want anything to do with the celebrity or TV psychics. I work very hard to make sure people don't know who I am. I am not seeking fame, fortune or status, and I live by the morality that taking advantage of people for personal gain is wrong.

I also know a thing or two about being psychic, such as you can't just turn it off and on. It either comes or it doesn't. As well, when I do minister to someone (I use my gifts in a ministry related way) I always let them know that the future isn't set in stone...it changes with our choices, decisions, and the path we choose. I see myself more as a spiritual counselor....letting people see what might be if they continue on the path they are on. I honestly in many cases pray that my foretelling might be wrong. I actually hope to be innaccurate when the future includes something which could be detrimental. Any psychic that claims 100% accuracy is highly suspicious. For these reasons I rarely share someone's future with them.

In respect to solving crimes and such, I fully admit there were a couple of cases where I provided tips to authorites from a psychic vantage point. One was actually sort of high profile. I did so through anonymous tips via letters mailed to the proper individuals. In doing this, I have shared my gifts and offered direction...eliminated the possibility of being credited for such, and offered the proper authorities the ability to follow up through real police work and investigation. I trust that when police receive tips on such matters, that they do the followthrough. It's then out of my hands and off my mind. Again, sometimes the information flows and sometimes it doesn't. It's only been during these times that what I saw affected me in very powerful and deep ways I could not ignore, deny or forget what I saw that I took such actions. The subsequent investigations also showed that I was right. Here's the thing though...one of the reasons that I chose to be anonymous in sharing information, would be that I do not believe for one minute that police should ever become dependant on psychics or thier abilities in place of real investigations.

Even in my own personal life and psychic experiences, I always follow up and research the facts. Doing so has given me validation for myself, and I don't need others to tell me I am right, I am special, I am gifted, or that I am 'a real psychic' to be confident and secure with myself. I fully admit there are times when I am wrong, and chalk it up to a strange experience.

[Goonis38]

That is a beautiful thing LK, and I know you us it to help people and not hurt them... I know you would never go out of your way to us your gift in away that would effect peoples lives in a harsh bad way. I say this because I know there are some that would have no regard for the people that get hurt in the line of fire, of doing such work... I know you have been very kind, and open, and honest with me...
And I think we all know when we are doing the right things to help, or hurt... God has blessed you, and now you are blessing others with this web-site... You have a great tool here that can make a huge difference in a lot of peoples lives. I'm not telling you anything you don't know, just saying. And I'm glade it is in a persons hands with a big heart... Your friend Melanie