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Digital recorder built for paranormal investigators.
#1
This new recorder was built for paranormal investigators. Most equipment we adapt to paranormal.
https://www.pro-measure.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=99

It does have a few interesting features. Are they worth the $289.00 price tag? Still waiting to hear reviews of it. The one feature that sounds interesting is the automatic playback of your question and answer. You adjust the pause. This would allow you to know if you got a response and then proceed in that line of questioning.
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
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#2
I'll be looking forward to some reviews on that! If it works, it could also save a lot of time in listening to EVP's. You can listen to what has been auto-saved while you are still recording, from what it says on there.

Almost seems like an amped up version of the ovilus...but I'm anxious to hear if there are any results with this.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ~Philip K. Dick

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#3
I can't see what kind of quality and format it records in. We use a Radio Shack Hack "Ghost Box" and that only $20 and we are still testing it. I would hate to put down $290+ for some thing that has not proved itself.
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#4
This is why I love writing. For me it's all about crafting the words so that it will appeal to my readers. Lovingly selecting each phrase.

See, I'm not at all impressed by the technical specifications, which sound like a lot of word swapping to make the basic features of a digital voice recorder sound more scientific. IE: "Frequency Sweep & EVP Combination". Sounds like, "rewind and fastforward" to me, only more expenive sounding. But I could be wrong. Still, since I know they're trying to sell me something it's what comes to mind.

Or the flashy look of the device. My little black recorder looks just like this one and only cost me fifty dollars. The fifty is because it has a built in flash drive which goes perfectly with my little laptop, which cost me about as much as this recorder and provides me with loads more features. (I can analyze videos and photos with my laptop and do online research about homes and supposeduly haunted areas. Can this "specifically built for paranormal investigators" recorder do that?)

Now lets look at the paragraphs below, or the "sales pitch".

Quote:Today DAS Distribution Inc. announced plans to release their new RT-EVP Interactive digital voice recorder designed exclusively for the paranormal market. Designed with the paranormal enthusiast in mind, this sleek new recorder boosts many of the key, essential features that paranormal enthusiasts require, which are unobtainable with the conventional off the shelf products currently available.

This new device is sure to catch the attention of the amateur and professional alike who are seeking new and more efficient ways to enhance their investigative skills said Gary Galka, the designer and President of DAS. It is my aspiration that the features and functionality of this new Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC) device, help bring us all one step closer to better understanding not only the world we live in now, but to also help us to appreciate and prepare for the world that awaits us all in the hereafter.

If I were an amateur investigator I'd feel terribly flattered that these people wanted to build something specifically to help me out. On the other hand, if like most paranormal investigators, I didn't have a job that allowed me to blow close to three hundred dollars (plus shipping and handling, and tax) I'd feel inadequately equipped with my regular digital voice recorder *droopy face* that doesn't have the cool "EVP Sweep" feature.

If I were a more experienced investigator (going on one year) I would tell you that there's nothing about the so called features on this recorder that can replace a good pair of ears. Yes, digital is loads better than tape. But you still need to be alert when you're going through evidence and maybe, possibly get yourself a pair of headphones with an extra volume control. (Which you could buy for the whole team with a third of the money it would cost you to get this one ghost hunting, ahem, enhancement)

Plus this advertising is littered with buzzwords like, "ethereal", and "hereafter", which continues to give you the impression that they had the paranormal field in mind the entire time. It makes you, the amateur (not directed at anyone in particular) feel proud to give these people your money.

Quote:This data is then later reviewed hours or sometimes even days later, which is very inefficient and time consuming.

I'm sorry, did the person who wrote this even go on an investigation? Reviewing audio footage is only a small percentage of what goes into investigating a supposedly haunted location. Plus, read on:

Quote:An adjustable 1-15 second Playback On Delay allows the user to ask questions and hear any response that follows within the 1-60 second user selectable window.

A simple question typically takes about 3 seconds to ask. So, if you have the delay set for 5 seconds, you would hear your question repeated back to you in the 5 seconds followed by any ethereal response recorded. If you think you hear something but you are not sure during the Real Time operation, there is a quick review button that allows you to back up in 5 second increments each time it is pressed without disturbing or interrupting your session.

So what, if I don't hear an "ethereal" response fifty seconds after I asked the question there's no activity? Do I dismiss the rest of the session based on that fifty seconds? Or the next fifty seconds? And instead of taking a few hours the next day, or two days later to analyze the evidence, do you know how long it would take to analyze a standard three hour session this way? (I've had EVP sessions last from two to three hours)

Another thing that bugs me is this Billy Mays style of advertising that suggests there is a "typical" investigation. Typical is not a word that should ever enter an investigator's vocabulary. Yes, there are, ideal results which do seem to happen often, based on the available evidence. But any investigator will tell you that it took years to collect said evidence, which would indicate that there were entire gaps of time where they found little to nothing to support the idea of a place being haunted.

Yet this little piece of advertising makes it seem as though you could get any "ethereal" response out of a house or your favorite shirt in as little as "3","2","1" BLAM!"

The bulk of the advertising seems to focus on this idea that you can have "realtime" communication with the spirit. Which pretty much upgrades this recorder to the status of the K2 device, which is also a highly glorified and overly complicated EMF detector with flashing lights. Still, I'd be lying if I said the idea of having a realtime conversation with a spirit didn't intrigue me. But the investigator in me does not want to stand in one place all night analyazing every single question I've asked because I know that the odds of getting a spirit to communicate directly with me are equal to my odds of slipping into a Robert Pattinson autograph session with a blunt object unnoticed.

Sorry, I'll stick with my little recorder and my "inefficient" method of investigating. Which, by the way, gives me time to clear my head and analyze the evidence with a fresh and unbiased mind away from the house full of people who are "certain" that what they heard was a woman talking upstairs in the bedroom where she and the family were congregated while we investigated that night.
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#5
Interesting,
I prefer to put together my own equipment as I know exactly what went in there, and how it all works.
I can see the appeal for folks who want a "plug in play" piece of gear, but the price makes me take a step back with a sharp intake of breath.

Just out of interest, are any of you using recorders/ghost boxes inside a faraday cage to minimise outside interference?
I have a Raudive Diode that I've been experimenting with, and I'm building a small faraday cage to put this in with my voice recorder.
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#6
Haven't tried it myself

Something I might add to your faraday cage is to suspend the equipment in the box with rubber bands, also set you box on thick foam to help eliminate outside contamination.

Let us know how your experiment works.
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
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(08-03-2010, 12:51 PM)UglyNRude Wrote: Haven't tried it myself

Something I might add to your faraday cage is to suspend the equipment in the box with rubber bands, also set you box on thick foam to help eliminate outside contamination.

Let us know how your experiment works.


Good idea, I'll run the experiments with lots of different set ups to see what results we get
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#8
There are some positives here - Continuous recording during playback is nice (though the odds are you will only record the same sounds that you are playing back anyway, so maybe not that great.) and the device recording lower frequencies is a definite plus.

None of that justifies the cost though, for that price I would MUCH rather just have a Zoom H4 and some change.
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#9
(08-03-2010, 03:32 PM)Aesalon Wrote: There are some positives here - Continuous recording during playback is nice (though the odds are you will only record the same sounds that you are playing back anyway, so maybe not that great.) and the device recording lower frequencies is a definite plus.

None of that justifies the cost though, for that price I would MUCH rather just have a Zoom H4 and some change.


I've got a zoom H2, excellent bit of kit, use is on investigation, and its great as a USB mike for when I do voiceover work on my videos. Managed to pick mine up cheap from ebay.
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