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serial killers, are they possessed by demons?
#21
Being a killer I would think the person would be mentally ill. And be corrupted from what ever made them that way.
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#22
They are like a deranged animal. Put them down and spare the innocent !
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#23
(09-05-2010, 01:18 PM)Reverend Mother Wrote: They are like a deranged animal. Put them down and spare the innocent !

You believe in spirits, you believe in demons but you don't think a serial killer can be saved if he was possessed by demons?

Berkowitz subsequently claimed that he was commanded to kill by a demon who possessed his neighbor's dog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berkowitz

BTK pastor believes serial killer possessed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472248/posts

Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer both also claimed to have been possessed by demons.

You wear the Reverend Mother as a name on here and you do believe in demons. So why wouldn't you think removing the demons from these killers would save them?
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
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#24
(09-05-2010, 01:46 PM)UglyNRude Wrote:
(09-05-2010, 01:18 PM)Reverend Mother Wrote: They are like a deranged animal. Put them down and spare the innocent !

You believe in spirits, you believe in demons but you don't think a serial killer can be saved if he was possessed by demons?

Berkowitz subsequently claimed that he was commanded to kill by a demon who possessed his neighbor's dog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berkowitz

BTK pastor believes serial killer possessed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472248/posts

Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer both also claimed to have been possessed by demons.

You wear the Reverend Mother as a name on here and you do believe in demons. So why wouldn't you think removing the demons from these killers would save them?

wow that's the closest thing to religion I ever heard you say!
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#25
I am just wondering about Reverend Mother, in most posts she tells us to believe when someone says they are possessed. Then to turn around and say destroy them, doesn't sound right to me.

My own personal beliefs are we are not able to be possessed by a demon. I think people create their own demon in their minds to cover up their wrong doing. Now I believe in a power source we all tap into. This power protects me. if I was religious then I would still say demons cannot possess us today.

Doesn't it say that here?
Jesus gave the ability to cast out demons to His apostles (Luke 10:17; Mark 16:17,18; Acts 5:16; 8:7; 16:16-18; 19:12). The apostles were able to give miraculous gifts to others by laying their hands on them (Acts 6:6-8; 8:14-21; 19:1-6). This included the power to cast out demons (Acts 8:5-8).
The purpose of these miracles was to confirm (prove) God’s Word (Mark 16:20: Hebrews 2:2-4). Paul said these gifts of the Holy Spirit would fail, cease, and vanish away (1 Corinthians 13:8-10). These miraculous gifts would cease when that which is perfect had come (v. 10). This refers to the New Testament, which is called the perfect law of liberty (James 1:25). One of these gifts was the power to cast out demons. Therefore, evil spirits possessing men, along with the power to cast them out, ceased when the New Testament was completed and confirmed. If demon possession continued today, Satan would have more power than God, for he could send his demons into people, but God’s people could not cast them out.

But then again I am not religious so if we want to believe in Demonic possession we can say this is a wrong interpretation.
Belief bias occurs when we make illogical conclusions in order to confirm our preexisting beliefs. Belief perseverance refers to our tendency to maintain a belief even after the evidence we used to form the belief is contradicted.
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#26
I also don't agree with the thing that you should put them down.Sure it would be a better place without them,but this is not the case how should we deal with them.
For me they are all sick.Anybody who kills a man is sick for me,but this is not important now.The church says that these are all demons inside them.If a demon ever came in the person it can leave the person also.These cases are rear but real so...with the power and faith it can be done.
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#27
Oh yeah ??? Ask the families how they feel about their young sons being found in Gacy's crawl space ! 31 of them, thank you very much ! Their young lives cut short by this monster. Possession is an very nice cop out, ask any Prosecuting Attorney.
Not to mention that alot of money goes to incarcerate these people. It took 20 years, before that vile creature Gacy was finally put in the ground. Taxpayer money, my dears. Your money. During which time , Gacy spent his time painting. How nice ! People bought his artwork too.

If you think that they so geat to have in society, then why don't YOU take them into your home. See if your bleeding heart crap works on these murders, whose ONLY regret is that they got caught !

How about that nanny who beat up an 11 month old baby ? Check out CNN. 8 year
s she got, big deal ! That child is probably traumatised for life. Oh, it's her 1st offense ! The only one she got caught at !
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#28
(09-05-2010, 05:54 PM)Reverend Mother Wrote: Oh yeah ??? Ask the families how they feel about their young sons being found in Gacy's crawl space ! 31 of them, thank you very much ! Their young lives cut short by this monster. Possession is an very nice cop out, ask any Prosecuting Attorney.
Not to mention that alot of money goes to incarcerate these people. It took 20 years, before that vile creature Gacy was finally put in the ground. Taxpayer money, my dears. Your money. During which time , Gacy spent his time painting. How nice ! People bought his artwork too.

If you think that they so geat to have in society, then why don't YOU take them into your home. See if your bleeding heart crap works on these murders, whose ONLY regret is that they got caught !

How about that nanny who beat up an 11 month old baby ? Check out CNN. 8 year
s she got, big deal ! That child is probably traumatised for life. Oh, it's her 1st offense ! The only one she got caught at !

Yes but that wasn't the question, he said if you believe in demonic possession why couldn't they be cured if the demons left?
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#29
I do not believe all serial killers to be possessed nor are they all mentally ill.

Many of the serial killers were abused as young children, these instances of abuse triggered something in them to retaliate as a way to deal with the abuse.

So I think the term "mentally ill" does not fit, maybe more like mentally insane. But even then you can not place them all in that category either
Faeries, come take me out of this dull world,
For I would ride with you upon the wind,
Run on the top of the dishevelled tide,
And dance upon the mountains like a flame.
(William Butler Yeats, "The Land of Heart's Desire," 1894)



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#30
I think we can all agree that someone who goes around mindlessly taking lives at random has something very twisted going on. There's no excuse or defense for it...least of which should be a demon. But I agree, if we're asked to believe in the possibility of possession, it doesn't seem to make much sense to say that if someone IS possessed to just "take them out". I would think that if that were the case, there would be the desire to help the person affected and rid them of what was possessing them.

I don't want to get myself too off topic...the question basically was are serial killers possessed by demons? My opinion to that would be...no. They are possessed by a very twisted and irrational mind.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ~Philip K. Dick

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