Angels Or Brain Disorder?

[jeff]

(01-18-2010 12:43 PM)Jophiel Wrote:  

(01-18-2010 12:20 PM)Fiona Wrote:  Epilepsy of the temporal lobe can create a similar experience/vision as NDEs, but a vast majority of experiences caused by problems with the temporal lobe are often negative, associated with feelings of sadness, despair and loneliness, whereas a high percentage of people who experience NDE's claim that the experience was positive for them, and that if they had the choice, they wouldn't have returned.

That's a good point. It seems that what an epileptic center does is overstimulate whatever part of the brain it is in. It makes sense that overstimulating an area designed to deal with spiritual experiences could either create a false experience or make the victim aware of things around him / her. Either way you end up with a bizarre happening.

I don't think I can quote it at the moment, but I believe Elija said something to the effect that their god was not answering because he was asleep, or maybe away on "vaction." Something like that. I'll look it up later.

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Food for thought

Scientist Do Not know and understand everything. It follows that if they can't fix it, or explain it, then they have to make a choice. Do they admit there is a God that acts or intervenes in human affairs, or do they accept on faith that their own understanding is adequate, and claim in time man will know all that can be known. Faith? Wouldn't that sort of make Science God? And that would make them believers, having faith in science and in themselves?

I smell something fishy going on here. (in our children's schools) God isn't getting a fair shake. Doesn't He deserve equal time?

So we can't ignore that Science is actually a kind of religion. Any way, they can proselytize everyone's children in public school class rooms. What do our kids think about all this? That begs the question, is it fair to teach one faith over another? Is this fair to our children?

I love science, until it tries to steal my true faith.

[jeff]

(02-06-2010 03:10 AM)jeff Wrote:  

(01-16-2010 01:51 AM)Haunted Lady Wrote:  A scientific study of individuals reporting religious hallucinations may in fact have a link to issues with the temporal lobe of the brain. Read the BBC's news report here;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2865009.stm

What do you think? God or neurological?

A single injury to one person does not act as a model we are all judged by. That is ridiculous! Science is and forever more will be trying to categorize and analyze religious people and religion itself. I've never seen an angel. Am I less of a Christian than someone who has seen an angel? Who's to judge..., I'm pretty sure it isn't science?

Why don't scientist just be honest and admit there are many things they can not understand or explain? This doesn't stop them, or even slow them down. They make a choice, and they put their faith into their own understanding, however feeble it may be in some places. I think that qualifies Science as a religion..., if it requires faith, call it what it is! It is what it is!!!

As long as faith is needed, I make my choice to trust God. Mankind's imagination exalts itself in its own eyes. I know of another being that made that mistake.

To one and all,
I apologize if I offended anyone with my inital "rash" response. I was thinking about all the different beliefs and faiths of people who visit here or work here..., and then I thought about science. Truthfully science is a religion itself. I don't suspect many will visit this site. I would welcome their thoughts as readily as I would anyone else. Although I'm sure some would argue that science is not a religon/faith. I offer an apology to everyone I offended with my initial reply. Recently I was reading about NDEs. The doctors and scientist seem to be the last to believe.

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(02-13-2010 01:41 AM)jeff Wrote:  

(02-06-2010 03:10 AM)jeff Wrote:  

(01-16-2010 01:51 AM)Haunted Lady Wrote:  A scientific study of individuals reporting religious hallucinations may in fact have a link to issues with the temporal lobe of the brain. Read the BBC's news report here;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2865009.stm

What do you think? God or neurological?

A single injury to one person does not act as a model we are all judged by. That is ridiculous! Science is and forever more will be trying to categorize and analyze religious people and religion itself. I've never seen an angel. Am I less of a Christian than someone who has seen an angel? Who's to judge..., I'm pretty sure it isn't science?

Why don't scientist just be honest and admit there are many things they can not understand or explain? This doesn't stop them, or even slow them down. They make a choice, and they put their faith into their own understanding, however feeble it may be in some places. I think that qualifies Science as a religion..., if it requires faith, call it what it is! It is what it is!!!

As long as faith is needed, I make my choice to trust God. Mankind's imagination exalts itself in its own eyes. I know of another being that made that mistake.

To one and all,
I apologize if I offended anyone with my inital "rash" response. I was thinking about all the different beliefs and faiths of people who visit here or work here..., and then I thought about science. Truthfully science is a religion itself. I don't suspect many will visit this site. I would welcome their thoughts as readily as I would anyone else. Although I'm sure some would argue that science is not a religon/faith. I offer an apology to everyone I offended with my initial reply. Recently I was reading about NDEs. The doctors and scientist seem to be the last to believe.

But don't forget Jeff, science isn't about dispelling old beliefs, it's about the search for the truth. There are scientists who explore the existance of ghosts.

[Fiona]

I think when it comes to science, it depends on the scientists themselves. Everyone is out for their own belief and agenda, which is understandable. (Even I, as a believer in God, wish to seek out proof of His existance.) The non-believers alike will pick out the things which back their own beliefs.

Science is the same: thankfully we do have SOME scientists who believe in God and find His perfect design and purpose in creation, wheras the scientists who don't believe (who are atheist) will look at every possible chance at taking God out of the equation. It's why we'll never fully know the truth, not anytime soon anyway...Anyone one of us can take a piece of paper in our hand and say "It's like this." But if we're looking at different sides of the page, we'll find a different point of view.

[Anastasia Newman]

in truth i fall in the middle of this debate somethings can be explained by science and (Srinks, people who get inside ur head) some so called ilnesses are not even real, and what cant be explaned ends up being called an "act of god".

lets take a diffrent look at a related issuse.

The Battle of Religion vs. Science
Anyone who went through high school it does not matter if you’re taught at a public school or a private school, we learn about the past and other things. If I learned anything from science class, it was the fact that Matter (the stuff everything has and is made of) cannot be created or destroyed just transformed. Then the Great “Big Bang theory” (the super explosion of a super-dense ball aka Star that created the entire universe) is a lie… no matter what you can’t explain that theory, because from where did the ball come from, what caused it to exploded. But any scientist can argue with the Christians bible, the first book of the bible explains the creation of the earth and the universe. In a matter of a week, but science dates the earth to be millions of years old. Then the Christian will scream, god does not believe in the human theory of time. This grand debate could go on and on forever. Oh and the grand theory of Evolution, well… I will not start that one, and who knows maybe aliens do exist, but in any case. Religion and Science are like two dogs; get one and the other tries to draw the attention from the other.

As u can now see the issue is on a much higher scale than what most people want to see, but angels and deamons exist. How else could artist draw the same image when seprated by miles and years.

in the end PEOPLE BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE BELIEVE IN.

“There is a fine line that one must travel and the path is not always smooth, sometimes it’s steep and narrow.” (Ana Newman, Wisdom From Destruction)

[Fiona]

Excellent post, Anastasia

[Anastasia Newman]

thanks i try i had actually wrote that scince Vs relegion bit in my book. WFD Wisdom From Destruction... still a work in progress im glad that people like it.