Bloody Mary?

[Youcantbreakme]

(02-28-2008 09:11 PM)mae413 Wrote:  hi...im a new member in this site...hmm just want to add one topic if its ok to all of u...
but this curiosity inside brings me to ask this question, i know it is too old story but i want to know that real story...and thats the "Bloody Mary thing?" just want to ask if she is still existing now a days????jejeje just want to know...

Bloody Mary is not Bloody Mary. It is a spirit of a woman who got killed or had to kill. Its a spirit between two worlds. Who gets summoned by calling it in the mirror. I suggest that you dont try it if you have a dead woman with this problem in your town.
Everything began at the moment when a daughter called dead mothers name in the mirror because she mad at her. the spirit awoke and killed her. The whole thing was heard by younger brother and spirit killed him too and then his father.
Dont mess with it

[Dr.Teufel Geist]

yeh, I seen that movie

[Angel With Horns]

(02-28-2008 09:11 PM)mae413 Wrote:  hi...im a new member in this site...hmm just want to add one topic if its ok to all of u...
but this curiosity inside brings me to ask this question, i know it is too old story but i want to know that real story...and thats the "Bloody Mary thing?" just want to ask if she is still existing now a days????jejeje just want to know...

I think so cause everyone in my school will only say her name 2 times in the mirror alone in the dark before getting freaked out so i guess so.

[mythbuster2009]

I wrote an article on Mary Worthington several months before joining the forum here:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Mary-Worthington

[Tina Evelina]

There are many legends and superstitions surrounding mirrors. Mirrors are said to be a reflection of the soul, and they were often used in traditional witchcraft as tools for scrying or performing other spells. It is also said that mirrors cannot lie. They can show only the truth, so it is a very bad omen indeed to see something in a mirror which should not be there. Also there is a legend that a newborn child should not see a mirror until its first birthday as its soul is still developing. If the child sees its reflection it is said that it will die.

It is a common superstition that someone who breaks a mirror will receive seven years of bad luck.[24] One of the many reasons for this belief is that the mirror is believed to reflect part of the soul, therefore, breaking the mirror will break part of the soul. However, the soul is said to regenerate every seven years, thus coming back unbroken. To counter this one of many rituals has to be performed, the easiest of which is to stop the mirror from reflecting the broken soul by grinding it to dust.[25] The belief might also simply originate from the high cost of mirrors in times gone past. It is also said that tapping the broken mirror on a gravestone seven times will allow the soul to heal. Another option is to bury the mirror, also preventing the mirror from reflecting the broken soul. However, if the mirror is both touched to the gravestone and buried, the bad luck will remain. If you are in this position, the only course of action is to dig up the mirror and grind it to dust. Finally, this dust must be sprinkled around the same gravestone on which the mirror was initially tapped

[Dr.Teufel Geist]

(03-24-2010 05:04 AM)Tina Evelina Wrote:  There are many legends and superstitions surrounding mirrors. Mirrors are said to be a reflection of the soul, and they were often used in traditional witchcraft as tools for scrying or performing other spells. It is also said that mirrors cannot lie. They can show only the truth, so it is a very bad omen indeed to see something in a mirror which should not be there. Also there is a legend that a newborn child should not see a mirror until its first birthday as its soul is still developing. If the child sees its reflection it is said that it will die.

It is a common superstition that someone who breaks a mirror will receive seven years of bad luck.[24] One of the many reasons for this belief is that the mirror is believed to reflect part of the soul, therefore, breaking the mirror will break part of the soul. However, the soul is said to regenerate every seven years, thus coming back unbroken. To counter this one of many rituals has to be performed, the easiest of which is to stop the mirror from reflecting the broken soul by grinding it to dust.[25] The belief might also simply originate from the high cost of mirrors in times gone past. It is also said that tapping the broken mirror on a gravestone seven times will allow the soul to heal. Another option is to bury the mirror, also preventing the mirror from reflecting the broken soul. However, if the mirror is both touched to the gravestone and buried, the bad luck will remain. If you are in this position, the only course of action is to dig up the mirror and grind it to dust. Finally, this dust must be sprinkled around the same gravestone on which the mirror was initially tapped

Not just mirrors....anything that cast a reflection, even a bowl of water..

[mythbuster2009]

Bloody Mary is not just one phenomena - it's a series of version of folklore and legend, right up to present day versions. Bloody Mary is also an "ostention" game or a "Legend Tripping" game. Legend Tripping is like a 'dare game' - where people (usually youth/teenagers) attempt to tease out a 'happening' from a legend, "daring" the legend to happen.

There are many versions of the Bloody Mary tale - and there aren't any 'true or false' tales about Bloody Mary - only versions of legend and references to a few historical persons that later cultures and generations deemed 'bloody mary.'

No "original" Mary has been successfully traced yet - but also - the same outline of the "bloody mary" legend exists under other names like Black Agnes, Mary Lou, Bloody Bones, etc.

The legend reflects societal fears about death, afterlife, ghosts, mirrors and reflecting/reflections connected with mirrors - looking within or without. A number of things are connected with the Bloody Mary legend that are also related to 'rites of passage,' 'deflowering,' and 'transgression of parental rules.'

I cringe when I see public comments like "Bloody Mary is not real" or "Bloody Mary is a stupid game - it's not real" because the legend of Bloody Mary is very real as an indicator of ideologies, superstitions, societal fears, societal storytelling and imagination...somewhere within these legends, if we can find a source old enough and well-preserved enough, there may even be a historical precedent from which Bloody Mary springs...perhaps there really was a Mary Worthington, a Mary Agnes or Hell Mary in the past that people told stories about - which turned into the Bloody Mary legend tripping game...it would be interesting to find out WHY such a macabre game was developed in the first place.

The study of Bloody Mary reaches into childlore, as well - which is incredibly complex and interesting...children do NOT need US adults to develop very intricate games and explanations of the world around them...I believe the Bloody Mary game is influenced a great deal by childlorists from past ages...rather than "debunking" the legend as "not possible" "never happened" and "not real," we can learn a TON OF THINGS by paying close attention to this legend/game

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I appreciate Dr. Teufel Geist's mention of the 'bowl of water'

A complex and definite "Legend Tripping" version of Bloody Mary is done around a well...or by a gravesite on the tombstone - with a special container or sacred bowl with water in them...it's very interesting that actual, complex RITUALS surround some versions of this game...

The game/legend tripping may not yield what 'debunkers' call a 'positive event' 'positive evidence' or a true sighting experience of any Bloody Mary persona or ghost...but the lengths to which some individuals will try to summon Mary, Bloody Agnes, Hell Mary, Svarte Madame, Bloodied Kathy, Mary Johnston, Mirror Mary, Mary of the Well, Drowned Mary, etc., make this legend well worth looking into.

In many versions involving the well, it seems that early works of literature might be incorporated into the legends/game - related to "Lady of the Lake," "Ophelia," etc. The most interesting reference that the legend might be touching upon is a very terrible method of execution used in Europe in the 17th and 18th centuries when a whole LOT of different ghost, demon, witch, vampire and werewolf HYSTERIA situations were the cause of a lot of deaths of innocents. In fact, the drowning execution happened during the middle ages, as well and was used as an attempt to determine whether or not a woman was a witch...

From my studies on the Bloody Mary legend, I believe, most strongly, that the legend exists as a feminine oppression reference from the past...and the legend continues to exist very prominently because women and womens' roles in society are still in question. There are many embedded points related to oppression in almost every legend I've heard or read...and women/girls tend more to circulate the legend and play the 'game.' this is a standard 'slumber party' game that young women and teenaged girls play...the legend seems to 'morph' and become altered the more 'girls gossip' but it never loses a frightening quality that one would think females would deliberately TAKE OUT of it...the oppression details, hints that Mary will maim or disfigure the person playing the game (disfigurement is still a fear of women because SOME WOMEN in society require their GOOD LOOKS in order to succeed in society)...blah blah blah - there's a LOT to this legend...

The "water" and bowl of water versions of this legend are almost always VERY complex and utilize more rules than just the 'say her name 10 times' or 'summon mary 3 times, turn around and look in the mirror' - most of the water versions include additional people, activity from multiple participants, etc... SOME of these 'games' may have actually been designed to try to PREVENT Mary from being 'inhuman' and nasty to people - and keep her stuck at the bottom of a well...

[Ghost shadow girl]

Bloody Mary? Nah, I don't think it's a real thing. It may be a ghost or something, but not one that comes into your mirror and kills you. Wht makes me think that way is the fact that there are more legends than once concerning Bloody Mary.

[Ghost shadow girl]

I just saw a new topic, the subject was asking our oppinion on Bloody Mary. That made me open this thread about some of the legends I know about Bloody Mary.

The first legend I ever heard about her was this one (I haven't coppied them from the internet, I'm telling you what I know):
A long time ago, there was this girl named (you guessed) Mary. She had a really beautiful hair, and she was so pround about it, that every night she would go to sleep, she would brush it 100 times. The hair made her look very beautiful, so she was selfish and unfriendly. One night, when she was brushing her hair, a mad hid in the closet that was behing her, in the bathroom, and came out when she was in. She didn't notice him, only when he was behind her, and then it was too late, because he cut her hair. For her, that was the end of the world (kinda 2012 ). The next day, it seems like she hung herself (I hope that's the right word), because the hair was the most precious thing to her. Now, anytime a girl with beautiful hair is brushing it in the bathroom, the girl, now called Bloody Mary, would appear behind her covered in blood and kill her, because of her beautiful hair.

That's the legend, but it is not real, one reason is that it is said Bloody Mary hung herself, so why would she be covered in blood.


Another legend I know is the one with the "spin around thing" we all know. I heard of this one in "Ghost Whisperer", but this is a legend too.

Mary was a girl who lived long ago, and had some kind of illness that could not be healed by then. She looked like she was dead, so her parents decided to bury her in the cemetery, so no one will get that illness from her. Her mom knew that she may not be dead, so she tied a string around one of her daughter's fingers, and she tied a bell on the other side of the string, so if the girl would wake up, she would pull the string and the bell would ring (rhymed!). She really believed that, so she wouldn't accept to go in the house. The priest injected her morfine to make her fall asleep, and took her into the house.
Late at night, something happened. Mary woke up, and pulled the string. The bell rand, but no one heard, for the bell was little, and it didn't make a lot of noise. The next morning, her mother visited her daughter's grave, and saw the bell was not in it's place. As quickly as possible, she got to Mary's coffin, and opened it. She found Mary dead, with her eyes wide open, her nails off her fingers, pinned on the coffin's cover, which was dirty with blood.
Now, if we go in the bathroom, in front of the mirror and light some candles (of course, the lights must be off) and if we spin three or five times and say "Bloody Mary" each time, we will hear a bell noise and she will apear in the mirror and either drag us in the mirror with her, or kill us (depends on the legend).

These are the two full legends I know about her, but I also know another interesting one.
Bloody Mary isn't always so bloody. It is said that if a girl who's at the age to get married, she should go up-down on the stairs holding a candle in one hand and a mirror in the other one, and Mary is gonna show them who they will get married to. The worst thing that could happen here is that if the girl sees a skull in the mirror, that means she will die before she'll get married.

If you know other legends, let me know and post them!

[GypsyMoon]

Bloody Mary:Mary I, daughter of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon, was born in 1516 began a reign at 37. Alot of people confuse her as Bloody Mary truth is she was named this because alot of people died when she ruled. It was her nickname but not the actual Legend.

Bloody Mary in Celtic lore was the Daughter of the Devil himself. He had sex with a human woman and she gave birth to a Baby girl horribly deformed.
He named her Mary as to blaspheme the name of Jesus mother Mary. She was scary and a blaspheme knowing she was this horrid monster Mary decided to take her life and set herself on fire. It only killed her human form but never destroyed the demonic side of Mary. Many people use mirrors as a divination tool or any reflective surface. But Black mirrors are always a clearer choice for many. So thats where the darkness comes from.
It is said only females can summon her this is due to old beliefs that women are more intune with spirits. But also that Mary herself is very jelouse of beauty. So female children would dare each other to summon her through a dark mirror. This lead to misfortune and curses on the child and family resulting in eventual death of the Female child who summond her. Through the years the Uban Legend has been mostly forgotten and then reborn as a College student, Young girl, Mother, etc.. I personally do not believe in summoning anything if you dont know whom or what you are conjuring. Or any attachments that could be involved in the summoned creature such as curses etc,.. Hope this helps