Ineffectiveness of the church on paranormal issues

[witchywoman]

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Can someone please tell me why it is that nearly every time someone has an issue with their house or business being haunted by either a violent human spirit or some sort of demonic presence that they go to a priest or pastor to fix the problem and they either treat you like your mentally disturbed or are ineffectually in blessing the premises and driving the spirit out? I find it funny as hell that most people end up having to go to either a "witch" or some other "hoodoo" priest or priestess to get rid of the entity and they ARE successful. Hmmm...could it be that the "holy church" is ineffectual because they don't even believe their own book? Or in daemons? Or spirits? Or in anything? I find it just down right laughable that the very people they label as "devil worshippers" or some such silly crap are doing the job they are supposed to be able to do. Certainly doesn't do anything to change my opinion about the "holy church". :roll:

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[Haunted]

I totally agree! I think the main reason that most church members are no help at all in driving demons from a person or a building is because most people that "claim" to be christians are worse than most sinners I know! And, are themselves under demonic influence!

And, merely claiming to be something don't give you the power you need to be able to evict demons from something they've claimed as their possession! You have to actually believe in something to even attempt to resolve anything and many christians seem to think that after the old testament, demons no longer exist.

You can claim to be a cop all you want but you can't actually arrest someone and take them to jail! You can claim to be a surgeon all you want, but unless you are one the person you operate on is most likely going to die!

Claiming to be a christian and believing in the bible, is completely different than actually being one. A lot of the christians I've know will boast of their faith for healing and other things, but mention demons and they either shake in their shoes or think you've gone just insane!

Even the Catholic church that has became so infamous with their exorcisms has even denied idea of demonic possession more times than they've admitted to it's reality! Hmmm Maybe that explains why that all of the Catholic Priests that have been brought out into the open in recent years for molesting young children have never blamed it on demonic possession. :lol:

[witchywoman]

Well said Haunted! And good one about the catholic church priests! LOL

[Haunted]

Hmm Well, Witchywoman seems like no one wants to touch this topic! Weird huh? 16 views and no other replies!

[maeks47]

i agree thanx for showing an awesome point of view

[BarbieQueen]

I have to disagree I grew up in a Christian Orthodox home and everytime we were to move into a new place he would come and bless the house and we never have problems but then again you might have a ghost that refuses to move on so you end up having an extra visitor :lol:

[UglyNRude]

Some churches will bless a home but that is not the same as helping someone that claims paranormal activity. A lot of Churches either avoid the issue or will go bless the home and tell the people everything is ok. This is great if the issue is in the peoples heads but not ok if they have a true paranormal reason. If you look at a lot of people that are the most devoted to their church you will see people that have history's of alcoholism, drugs, people that have dysfunctional families. They turn to church as a crutch of course they will tell you it says in the bible they must hit bottom before you find God. Then with all the bad publicity, with sex scandals, fraud cases, child molestation coming from the church, is this what you want to help you rid your home? The church is supposed to save souls, paranormal demonology is used to release souls. You don't call a plumber to fix your lights.

[jgisafishin]

Hhmmm. Seeing as they believe in the holy spirit and heaven and hell, you would think they would believe in evil spirits and demons and such. Or at least keep an open mind about it. If you think your house is haunted don't call your local priest. You could probally get them to bless the house if you don't tell them anything. Might work, might not. Some of the faiths are run on a real tight ship. The priests won't do something like that without permission from someone higher above. By that time you've probally allready been driven out of your mind. Some Iron Maiden comes to mind, you know, run to the hills-run for your life. jg. P.S. And ya, you would think they would say the devil made them do it. Fact is it is sick. If it was up to me they would be swinging, and I'm not talking about a night out dancing.

[cowgrlintx]

I can honestly understand where you are all coming from. I am a christian but we all sin. And, you are right. Not all christians believe in demons or even Hell. But let me tell you this. I read a post on this site not very long ago about a book that was written by Bill Wiese called 23 Minutes in Hell. If anyone does not believe, that should make them believe. Check it out. It is scary that Hell is really like that.

[Serenity]

I think most people act out of fear or should I say, fail to act out of fear. If one claims to be a Christian and cannot rid the home of an evil spirit, it puts them to the test. Of course we are also told not to go into battle or try to build a house without first seeing what the cost would be.

Most Christians do not have the faintest idea of what it takes to cast out a demon and maybe God is protecting them because of their ignorance. It takes great faith and self spiritual awareness to put oneself face to face with evil and not fear. If you are afraid, stay home,you will only make matters worse for those affected and for yourself whether you are a christian, pagan, or athiest.

Never talk to demons. Never reason with them. Call upon what your faith is, and never waiver. I have encountered many in psych wards who are lost because they engaged in activities that were beyond their scope of wisdom an knowledge and they are lost in a sea of blackness and torment.