Sleep Paralysis / Old hag Syndrome Various Names

[deffine]

florida_gals when those your book come out?
How close are you to finishing it?
R u reasearching this on your own or with a group?
Have you written previous books?

[bleedme]

(11-16-2009 11:31 AM)florida_gals Wrote:  

(11-15-2009 10:01 PM)bleedme Wrote:  I have personally never experieced what I believe the definition of sleep paralysis is. My soon to be X-husband has though.
When we were still living together he would come to me freaked out and explaining what had happened.
Mind you, he is not a religious person and of course neither am I.
He refused to tell anyone but me about these experiences out of fear that he would be ridiculed and laughed at by his peers.
He's in his early 50's and hold a position as a regional manger for Air-Gas, so for him people hearing of his experiences would be embarrassing, but he knew that he could talk to me about it (even thought he still felt uncomfortable) becuse he kows I have had many unexplainable occurances in my life time.

Bare in mind our marriage was in shammbles and we didn't sleep in the same bed or room together anymore.
Anyways here's how he would explain it.....
He would be in a deep sleep and would wake up, eyes wide open and very alert to his surroundings.
He said that he was completely paralized or frozen in bed.
He would try to move but couldn't, not out of fear but because his body just felt as if it were pinned down.
He said that he could hear the covers making a rustling sound over him, and what sounded like whispering to him. He would also be broken out in a cold sweat when the room temperature was not warm enough to cause him to sweat.
He thought he was going crazy because he had no explantion for what he was experiencing and he certainly didn't believe in paranormal activity and such.

Eventually, he would be able to move of his own free will, get out of bed and shake it off.
Never during any of these episodes or occurances did he have any recollection of dreaming, nor did he watch horror films or read scary novels. That stuff never drew any interest to him, I was always the one watching and reading scary stuff, he was too ohhh uhhhhh ....uptight for such things.

So, if what he experienced wasn't sleep paralysis then what the heck else could it have been?

That is exactly what we are trying to figure out. Sleep Paralysis has not been properly studied over the years. The definitions that have bee given in the medical field are by people that have not truly experienced what your husband has experienced. There are a few, that have been willing to go on the record, such as Dr. Hufford stating that these type of cases are not text book cases of SP. It is very frightening, but there are a few things he can try, such as keeping a regular sleeping pattern. Avoid morning naps. Try to not sleep on his back. If he does feel like the occurrences is about to happen, jump out out of bed, and stay up for about 10 minutes.

I would not really call myself a religious person, but I learned in a hurry that prayer seemed to end it faster than anything.

A person can usually move their pinkie finger, so it is best to focus on moving it until he can break the paralysis.

Tell him he is not crazy, that is the most important thing, and he is definitely not alone. I get dozens of emails a day from people that have had terrifying experiences, so do your homework, and you will see there is alot of advice, both medically and supernaturally out there to help.

Good Luck to you both

This may sound a bit mean but I have no entintion of helping him in any way. We have been seperated for a year now and he promises to grant me a divorce come the new year.

He's a very violent and controlling man, and after everything he has put me and my girls through for the past 10 years, I figure he deserves what ever comes his way.

It's funny though that the things you mentioned such as naps, and not laying on his back.
Everything you said for him not to do..... he does.

One other thing, I'm not knocking the whole theory of the study of sleep paralysis at all.
The only problem I see with it is that most people are not willing to come forward about it happening to them, and if it's not studied in their home then isn't it possible that it won't occur?

[deffine]

(11-16-2009 04:43 PM)bleedme Wrote:  

(11-16-2009 11:31 AM)florida_gals Wrote:  

(11-15-2009 10:01 PM)bleedme Wrote:  I have personally never experieced what I believe the definition of sleep paralysis is. My soon to be X-husband has though.
When we were still living together he would come to me freaked out and explaining what had happened.
Mind you, he is not a religious person and of course neither am I.
He refused to tell anyone but me about these experiences out of fear that he would be ridiculed and laughed at by his peers.
He's in his early 50's and hold a position as a regional manger for Air-Gas, so for him people hearing of his experiences would be embarrassing, but he knew that he could talk to me about it (even thought he still felt uncomfortable) becuse he kows I have had many unexplainable occurances in my life time.

Bare in mind our marriage was in shammbles and we didn't sleep in the same bed or room together anymore.
Anyways here's how he would explain it.....
He would be in a deep sleep and would wake up, eyes wide open and very alert to his surroundings.
He said that he was completely paralized or frozen in bed.
He would try to move but couldn't, not out of fear but because his body just felt as if it were pinned down.
He said that he could hear the covers making a rustling sound over him, and what sounded like whispering to him. He would also be broken out in a cold sweat when the room temperature was not warm enough to cause him to sweat.
He thought he was going crazy because he had no explantion for what he was experiencing and he certainly didn't believe in paranormal activity and such.

Eventually, he would be able to move of his own free will, get out of bed and shake it off.
Never during any of these episodes or occurances did he have any recollection of dreaming, nor did he watch horror films or read scary novels. That stuff never drew any interest to him, I was always the one watching and reading scary stuff, he was too ohhh uhhhhh ....uptight for such things.

So, if what he experienced wasn't sleep paralysis then what the heck else could it have been?

That is exactly what we are trying to figure out. Sleep Paralysis has not been properly studied over the years. The definitions that have bee given in the medical field are by people that have not truly experienced what your husband has experienced. There are a few, that have been willing to go on the record, such as Dr. Hufford stating that these type of cases are not text book cases of SP. It is very frightening, but there are a few things he can try, such as keeping a regular sleeping pattern. Avoid morning naps. Try to not sleep on his back. If he does feel like the occurrences is about to happen, jump out out of bed, and stay up for about 10 minutes.

I would not really call myself a religious person, but I learned in a hurry that prayer seemed to end it faster than anything.

A person can usually move their pinkie finger, so it is best to focus on moving it until he can break the paralysis.

Tell him he is not crazy, that is the most important thing, and he is definitely not alone. I get dozens of emails a day from people that have had terrifying experiences, so do your homework, and you will see there is alot of advice, both medically and supernaturally out there to help.

Good Luck to you both

This may sound a bit mean but I have no entintion of helping him in any way. We have been seperated for a year now and he promises to grant me a divorce come the new year.

He's a very violent and controlling man, and after everything he has put me and my girls through for the past 10 years, I figure he deserves what ever comes his way.

It's funny though that the things you mentioned such as naps, and not laying on his back.
Everything you said for him not to do..... he does.

One other thing, I'm not knocking the whole theory of the study of sleep paralysis at all.
The only problem I see with it is that most people are not willing to come forward about it happening to them, and if it's not studied in their home then isn't it possible that it won't occur?

haha ok my name deffine a mysterious no name.
ok in my post of who studies dis stuff i said that i can get paralysis anytime.
in an other post of out of body experience...?by alee she stated that she can recreate her paralysis.
So here i have me and her that could be great test subjects for this study. i can recreate paralysis anytime but it is not a nice experience that i want to do so often. Ohh yeah i just got paralysis 2 days ago.

[bleedme]

So do you create the medical form of sleep paralysis or the supernatural/paranormal?
Because my point was geared more towards the paranormal sleep paralysis.

It's just my opinion, but I think that the type of paralysis my future X-husband has experienced leans more on the supernatural side. Almost as if something is warning him to stop abusing me.
Or it could simply be his own subconscious mind getting at him for what he was doing to me and the kids.

[Bracket]

I really don't see anything supernatural what-so-ever about sleep paralysis.

[bleedme]

I just think there might be that possibility due to things like the covers being pulled off or pinning you down and the breaking out in a cold sweat or just the opposite for some and the room temperature dropping drastically.

[deffine]

(11-16-2009 06:04 PM)bleedme Wrote:  So do you create the medical form of sleep paralysis or the supernatural/paranormal?
Because my point was geared more towards the paranormal sleep paralysis.

It's just my opinion, but I think that the type of paralysis my future X-husband has experienced leans more on the supernatural side. Almost as if something is warning him to stop abusing me.
Or it could simply be his own subconscious mind getting at him for what he was doing to me and the kids.

haha ok i respect your opioin i really do
but your saying that bad people get paralysis and that they diserve it
therefore paralysis is a bad curse
i do like the his own subconious mind getting at himself thoery that makes more sense

medical form? haha wonder what the doc will say

[bleedme]

No I didn't mean for it to come out that way. I don't believe it's just bad people, sorry if that was the impression. I just meant that this one particular bad person was getting what he deserved in my opinion. oopsie

[florida_gals]

(11-16-2009 04:43 PM)bleedme Wrote:  

(11-16-2009 11:31 AM)florida_gals Wrote:  

(11-15-2009 10:01 PM)bleedme Wrote:  I have personally never experieced what I believe the definition of sleep paralysis is. My soon to be X-husband has though.
When we were still living together he would come to me freaked out and explaining what had happened.
Mind you, he is not a religious person and of course neither am I.
He refused to tell anyone but me about these experiences out of fear that he would be ridiculed and laughed at by his peers.
He's in his early 50's and hold a position as a regional manger for Air-Gas, so for him people hearing of his experiences would be embarrassing, but he knew that he could talk to me about it (even thought he still felt uncomfortable) becuse he kows I have had many unexplainable occurances in my life time.

Bare in mind our marriage was in shammbles and we didn't sleep in the same bed or room together anymore.
Anyways here's how he would explain it.....
He would be in a deep sleep and would wake up, eyes wide open and very alert to his surroundings.
He said that he was completely paralized or frozen in bed.
He would try to move but couldn't, not out of fear but because his body just felt as if it were pinned down.
He said that he could hear the covers making a rustling sound over him, and what sounded like whispering to him. He would also be broken out in a cold sweat when the room temperature was not warm enough to cause him to sweat.
He thought he was going crazy because he had no explantion for what he was experiencing and he certainly didn't believe in paranormal activity and such.

Eventually, he would be able to move of his own free will, get out of bed and shake it off.
Never during any of these episodes or occurances did he have any recollection of dreaming, nor did he watch horror films or read scary novels. That stuff never drew any interest to him, I was always the one watching and reading scary stuff, he was too ohhh uhhhhh ....uptight for such things.

So, if what he experienced wasn't sleep paralysis then what the heck else could it have been?

That is exactly what we are trying to figure out. Sleep Paralysis has not been properly studied over the years. The definitions that have bee given in the medical field are by people that have not truly experienced what your husband has experienced. There are a few, that have been willing to go on the record, such as Dr. Hufford stating that these type of cases are not text book cases of SP. It is very frightening, but there are a few things he can try, such as keeping a regular sleeping pattern. Avoid morning naps. Try to not sleep on his back. If he does feel like the occurrences is about to happen, jump out out of bed, and stay up for about 10 minutes.

I would not really call myself a religious person, but I learned in a hurry that prayer seemed to end it faster than anything.

A person can usually move their pinkie finger, so it is best to focus on moving it until he can break the paralysis.

Tell him he is not crazy, that is the most important thing, and he is definitely not alone. I get dozens of emails a day from people that have had terrifying experiences, so do your homework, and you will see there is alot of advice, both medically and supernaturally out there to help.

Good Luck to you both

This may sound a bit mean but I have no entintion of helping him in any way. We have been seperated for a year now and he promises to grant me a divorce come the new year.

He's a very violent and controlling man, and after everything he has put me and my girls through for the past 10 years, I figure he deserves what ever comes his way.

It's funny though that the things you mentioned such as naps, and not laying on his back.
Everything you said for him not to do..... he does.

One other thing, I'm not knocking the whole theory of the study of sleep paralysis at all.
The only problem I see with it is that most people are not willing to come forward about it happening to them, and if it's not studied in their home then isn't it possible that it won't occur?

Oh I'm terribly sorry, I somehow missed the xhusband part, probably my 5 year running around, every time I am trying to write on here.

I am not quite understanding what you are saying, about being not coming forward and it not being studied in their home and then it not occurring.


Forgive me for having to ask you to repeat your meaning, but are you saying that it will be difficult to be studied if more people do not come forward?

If that is what you are saying, than that is why I am doing what I am doing, bringing awareness, so people will not be afraid to fill out the polls and such that places like waterloo are doing, so we can find the common denominators. The book I will be writing will be an informative book that includes links to both sides of the story, the paranormal view and the scientific view. A collection of as many cases as I can gather for people to be able to say hey that is what is happening to me, and then go from there. Who knows, maybe its a new type of spaghetti sauce on the market lol (that is a joke), but still people like your ex husband lying there night after night not knowing what is happening to them, some even killing themselves, as they cannot stand to live through another night, is just plain terrible. Awareness is the key and then we go from there...What is it? Why is it happening?

When it first started happening to me, it was the most frightening thing I had ever experienced. I have been through alot, and none of it compared to my feelings of what was happening. I still am unclear as to what it is, but am glad to know that there are many many people just like me. I'm not crazy and neither are they, and that is the big message here.

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To BleedMe,

I'm terribly sorry you were in an abusive relationship, it is hard on the entire family, that is for sure. As far as my stance on whether I believe in the Medical or Paranormal side of sleep paralysis. I believe in both. I know I have posted my opinion on here somewhere, it is getting hard to keep track of all the forums that I am on right now. I believe there is a medical sleep paralysis that is happens when you awaken suddenly and your paralyzed still from sleeping, so you do not act out in your dreams and hurt yourself. I also believe in the supernatural side that Is commonly referred to as the old hag syndrome. That is when things get extremely weird and terrifying.

It is said that 20% of people have suffered from one of the types of sleep paralysis in their life time. That is the accounted for people, the unknown number is most likely much higher.

When I first experienced sleep paralysis, I was living alone and it scared me to death. My family thought I was suffering from a nervous breakdown, as no one knew what is was then, they just knew I was afraid all of a sudden to go to sleep. What I do know, is that when my boyfriend moved in with me a short time later, he then also started experiencing the same things that were happening to me. He was like this house is haunted and we are out of here.

The symptoms were all the same as we now commonly call the old hag. Either he or I would lie there paralyzed while all this commotion was going on. It was really freaky. I read Dr. Hufford's book " The Terror that comes in the night" There was alot of lore and things that had been passed down that was supposed to stop the attacks. I tried them all, with the main thing being prayer, and it stopped. It started overnight and ended just as fast. Occasionally I will feel the atmospheric change in my room, and no what is about to happen, and I jump up, stay awake about 10 minutes, and no problem.

The stories that people have sent me are heartbreaking as they feel as if they have lost their minds. It is my hope to help them, so they will come forward, so we can get to the bottom of this.

Remember we are only aware of 10% of the universe, the other 90% is unknown, so how can we say anything with such certainty, when we can't even answer what exists outside our small 10%.

I do know when the book is done, and hopefully sometime near the first of the year it will at least have information from all sides, and people will at least stop be afraid of their sanity and start pushing for more answers.

[bleedme]

What I meant was how can these studies be done outside of the home if it is possibly caused by the paranormal.
And with people like my soon to be X husband that just refuse to come forth to a proffesional due to his ego and attitude.
Like I said before, he certainly holds no belief in the paranormal, but this is one thing he believes that it is.