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Lucid dream help
#11
To be completely honest, if I was looking for a serious answer, I never would have asked it the way I did. The way I asked it made it obvious that nobody would answer with "like Elizabeth Warren". It was like a multiple choice question, where one of the answers was painfully obvious not to be the one. However, the fact that it's blown this far out of proportion leads me to believe that you have had your ethnicity brought to question. People don't get that angry over nothing, unless they have had that first-hand experience.

Whether or not that experience was legitimate or not, we'll never know as we are on the internet. I don't know what your background is. I can tell you right now that I was born a Canadian citizen. I can say it's the truth, but there is still a possibility that I'm lying. I can say that I was born in Toronto General Hospital, but anybody could look up a hospital and type it into an answer.

Again, I'm sorry that you feel attacked (was not my intention), but I won't apologize for asking a question that is actually pertinent to the discussion. Without some sort of claim to what you have been attempting (even if that claim was simply adopting, devoutly, the religion of the peoples), it would have been far more likely that nothing extraordinary was happening.
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#12
Just my two cents and I'm not pointing a finger at anyone. For years I was told that one of my ancestors was a Native American and even that his portrait was hanging someplace in the Oklahoma capitol building as one of the original legislators of the state government as a Chickasaw chief. My grandmother had grant land that she inherited from her mother. Fast forward to now, my brother doing genealogy can find no trace of our family in the registry in Oklahoma and contacted a distant cousin that stated that my supposed Native ancestor was never actually "married" to my gx3-grandmother, so it's possible she might have claimed him as the father when he actually wasn't. On top, my daughter's 23 and Me DNA test didn't show any Native American DNA ties.

I'm apparently not descended from any Native American lines, nor have I sought any privileges by asserting that I was. I'm of the opinion that people that should use such privileges should be largely Native American by blood or heritage.
-DFB

Subject: I have a black cat.
Believer: Black cats are bad luck.
Non-believer: It's just a cat.
Crackpot: Black cats are part of the New World Order government conspiracy.
Skeptic: I can test if black cats are more or less lucky than another cat.
Cynic: You only have a black cat to gain power and prestige.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9iIf4tFoyE

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#13
True, DFB. However, if you were still devout within the religion that you might not have bloodlines to, I'd still say that you had a good shot at experiencing the effects/benefits of that religion! So, blood is powerful (that's what I was trying to figure out at the beginning), but devotion to a religion can also be just as important.

The only reason why I wanted to know, if they were of that ethnicity, is because I wanted to know just how deeply their belief is tied to their heritage. Would the faith disappear, if they found out that they weren't native american? It's important, so we can discern more about the nature of any such dreams that are being had.
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(03-04-2019, 12:47 PM)Darkforeboding Wrote: Just my two cents and I'm not pointing a finger at anyone.  For years I was told that one of my ancestors was a Native American and even that his portrait was hanging someplace in the Oklahoma capitol building as one of the original legislators of the state government as a Chickasaw chief.  My grandmother had grant land that she inherited from her mother.  Fast forward to now, my brother doing genealogy can find no trace of our family in the registry in Oklahoma and contacted a distant cousin that stated that my supposed Native ancestor was never actually "married" to my gx3-grandmother, so it's possible she might have claimed him as the father when he actually wasn't.  On top, my daughter's 23 and Me DNA test didn't show any Native American DNA ties.

I'm apparently not descended from any Native American lines, nor have I sought any privileges by asserting that I was.  I'm of the opinion that people that should use such privileges should be largely Native American by blood or heritage.

Thank you for sharing.
 My mom also did a big geneology investigation. We know the name of our native ancestor, where she came from and that she did, in fact, marry as that was when she lost her status. The Indigenous are tricky to pinpoint records of ancestors as they didn't keep birth and death records. We know she was born in the middle to late 1800s and she went off radar some time in the 1930s or 40s. Our family doesn't claim legal status, nor do we claim any sort of privileges or Treaty rights and benefits. However, as I mentioned, all that is politicalized and we chose to not engage in it. We do acknowledge that we have that lineage in our blood and the spirituality in the family. It comes out every now and then. But we're also very close to our Ukrainian and French roots. There's nothing wrong with that at all. This is why I'm so defensive about others scrutinizing. All I originally said was that I felt a Native presence in my home and felt there was something in me trying to tell me something important regarding major changes that are about to happen in my life, but at the time, the dream scared me and because there was mention about being cursed in my dream. My logic was that I would benefit contacting someone who has knowledge with the Indigenous culture and the spirituality. 

Another reason is that years ago, my mom moved in with her then-boyfriend, in his ancestral farm house. My mom always tries to be helpful and improve things, or thinks she's being helpful, so she decided to make major renovations and repairs. Yes, some of the repairs were much needed, the removal of the old stucco outer wall that was rotting. While others were cosmetic enhancements, such as the granite counter. I never felt alone in that house, but never really had an encounter other than strange, squelching footstep noises walking along the side of the little bungalow one night. My mom heard it, too. But she had a terrifying experience one night when I was sleeping over. She just screamed so loud in the middle of the night. The next day she got the nerve to tell me she opened her eyes and saw a very red, red angry face staring at her very close to her face. She said the colour of the red was frightening enough. Now, her boyfriend never had an encounter in his home and I don't know if it was just her dreaming and she hallucinated however, when I heard her shouting I did ask if she was okay and she did respond right away and sounded awake. I didn't see anything and I was in the next room. Her boyfriend didn't see it as she always booted him to the rec room to sleep as she couldn't stand his snoring. Such a diva she is, and I'm putting it nicely. I think she ticked off some of his ancestors. My point is that these things are not something that occurs often at all. But when we get an omen we take notice. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. But either way, it means there's a change in us that needs to happen or is going to happen. I might be confusing this with something else, though. That's why I was coming back here to try to get answers. There used to be a few people that were here that were the go-tos on this stuff but I guess they moved on.
The hero is brave in deeds as well as words - Aesop

Please all, and you will please none - Aesop
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(03-04-2019, 10:25 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: True, DFB. However, if you were still devout within the religion that you might not have bloodlines to, I'd still say that you had a good shot at experiencing the effects/benefits of that religion! So, blood is powerful (that's what I was trying to figure out at the beginning), but devotion to a religion can also be just as important.

The only reason why I wanted to know, if they were of that ethnicity, is because I wanted to know just how deeply their belief is tied to their heritage. Would the faith disappear, if they found out that they weren't native american? It's important, so we can discern more about the nature of any such dreams that are being had.

Now, see this is all you really had to explain. As I mentioned, my mom told me that we share both spirituality with the Earth and Christianity. We do not practice anything Native but we do appreciate and observe snippets of the cultures and we do our research. The genetics of that have passed through that part of our bloodline is stronger, even in the facial features of my mom and her 6 siblings. My Uncles look more Indigenous than French or Ukrainian. My mom looks almost identical to her mom, my grandma, and so do much of my uncles and auntie. My grandma is French/Native and her side has been in Canada since, at least, the 1700s. And my grandpa is Ukrainian, 1st born in Canada from his side. He used to speak Ukrainian but doesn't much anymore. I have more my dad's features and his side is Irish and English. Yes, I have had much trouble with people doubting and teasing me over my ancestry. We were taking about it in class and a boy said my mom must have been a enter explicit word. A teacher was doubting my Ukrainian side saying I look too Irish to be Ukrainian. I'm not a redhead, but I have freckles, round head and green eyes. I've been mistaken for a Native suspect, nearly arrested for supposedly robbing a 7/11 because they were just going by a vague description. I've been called "white b****" and told to "go back where I came from". I've had people stare at me, giving me odd looks. And I can't tell you what they were thinking was wrong with me because I'm still baffled today. It still goes on. But I hear it's a problem a lot of people who have mixed blood experience. I also know it's a dicey topic everywhere and everyone has their own opinions on it. I work in research and I guess I just get tired of people's opinions and trying to stay neutral so I need to let out my opinion.
The hero is brave in deeds as well as words - Aesop

Please all, and you will please none - Aesop
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