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LMC · 12-03-2009, 07:35 PM

Yea believe it or not there are two different Catholics..Eastern Orthodox and Roman.

The thing about the Bible is that every Christian sect has picked and choose what they want in their Bible. There are so many books out there with different stories that you will never see anyone having in their Bible.
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I know what you are talking about I don't think it's Eastern Orthodox but it is Roman Catholics whom are the most world known let me see... I think the other one is???? hold on be back I have to look it up!

angelicdemon · 12-03-2009, 07:37 PM

(12-03-2009 07:35 PM)LMC Wrote: Yea believe it or not there are two different Catholics..Eastern Orthodox and Roman.

The thing about the Bible is that every Christian sect has picked and choose what they want in their Bible. There are so many books out there with different stories that you will never see anyone having in their Bible.

I know what you are talking about I don't think it's Eastern Orthodox but it is Roman Catholics whom are the most world known let me see... I think the other one is???? hold on be back I have to look it up!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Church

LMC · (This post was last modified: 12-03-2009 08:33 PM by LMC.)

I haven't found it yet! I know Catholics and Orthodox are the oldest Christianity Denomination... they do have similarities but still different in thier own ways It's 2 types of Orthodox... Greek and Russian Orthodox... I think the other Catholic could be Russian???? I don't know??? any way alot of the Christian denominations are branched off of Protestant which is a branch off of Catholism.

I am still looking... Greek Orthodox had the original New Testament... they might of started before Catholics????

(12-03-2009 07:37 PM)angelicdemon Wrote:
(12-03-2009 07:35 PM)LMC Wrote: Yea believe it or not there are two different Catholics..Eastern Orthodox and Roman.

The thing about the Bible is that every Christian sect has picked and choose what they want in their Bible. There are so many books out there with different stories that you will never see anyone having in their Bible.

I know what you are talking about I don't think it's Eastern Orthodox but it is Roman Catholics whom are the most world known let me see... I think the other one is???? hold on be back I have to look it up!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Church
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WOW Angelicdemon... interesting thanks I am reading it now... are they saying Orthodox could be the first???? I didn't read the whole thing... well don't qoute me I am still learning everything! thank you again! Icontexto-emoticons-06-032x032

angelicdemon · 12-03-2009, 08:52 PM

WOW Angelicdemon... interesting thanks I am reading it now... are they saying Orthodox could be the first???? I didn't read the whole thing... well don't qoute me I am still learning everything! thank you again! Icontexto-emoticons-06-032x032

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I am not sure there was a "first" per say with the Eastern Orthodox and the Roman Catholic. There was just a great divide in the church because the counties in Eastern Europe did not want to be told what to do by the people in Rome. I can't remember the date or the finer details but I am almost certain that is how it happen. I do know that the Roman Catholics do the sign of the Cross with their right hand while the Eastern Orthodox do it with their left and yes they are particular about which hand they use.

LMC · (This post was last modified: 12-03-2009 08:58 PM by LMC.)

Angelicdemon thanks again for the information... I love history all types of History! Icontexto-emoticons-06-032x032

if you are wondering what am I doing with the different colors and sizes I am just testing out all the fonts and so on... Icontexto-emoticons-06-032x032

Pariah · 02-04-2010, 09:43 PM

Oh for Pete's sake.

The faux distinction between "Christians" and "Catholics" was produced by the Protestant movement's campaign against the Church during the Western Schism. Over time, as Protestant sects continued to grow and constantly splinter (thank you sooooo much Mr. Luther), populist mentality allowed Protestants to get away with distinguishing themselves as Christians while emphasizing the Catholic Church as non-Christian simply because Christ's name isn't used as a prefix to describe it.

Catholics are just as much, if not more so, Christians as Protestants. considering the Protestant movement is founded on heretical belief systems, there's far more historical precedent to question their "Christian" status.

(09-09-2009 09:25 AM)CareTaker Wrote: In my opinion Catholics are not Christians. They do not follow Christ therefore they are not Christians.

How do you figure Catholics don't follow Christ? They're the ones who bothered to compile the writings of the apostles and the Old Testament, and then outline the Bible's philosophy for crying out loud. Are you speaking as if Protestants are somehow more Christian event though they followed a former clergyman?

(09-08-2009 06:58 PM)The Warrior Wrote: I don't know a lot about the Catholic Faith but from what I understand...they have alot more rituals than say orthodox relgions do. The priests tells them what to believe (or at least used to)...ie they don't always read the bible for theirselves.

That's rather simplistic. I'm not particularly sure what you mean by "orthodox religions," but priests serve the same purpose of Pastors or Reverends with regards to reading the Bible at a Mass--or service if you like.

When a priest gives a sermon, they usually read the Bible verses and then expand upon their meaning or simply clarify them. Assuming the person attending church isn't a cafeteria Christian, of course a Catholic would understand that the priest expects them to read the Bible on their own. But the point of reading the Bible to parishioners is to offer one's more learned perspective on it as a priest.

Quote:The Roman Catholic church has killed and tortured others for not following them.

*cough*SalemWitchTrials*cough*

Quote:They use rituals that were taken directly from Babylonian idol worshippers.

I beg your pardon. Do you have a citation?

If you're referring to keeping religious icons, then you're laboring under misapprehension. Catholics don't worship statues or pictures.

Quote:They set up a man to be an intercessor.

The Pope is not an intercessor; there's no mediation involved. He simply regulates policies and traditions within the Church. And the Vatican only follows Christ's example in that regard. He dubbed Peter the "rock" upon which his Church would be founded. Thereafter, Christ's followers established a hierarchy of religious intellectuals who would be given the opportunity to follow Peter's example of interpreting world trends and how they would relate to the Catholic faith and philosophy.

Quote:They pray to Mary....

Take a moment to look up the specific itinerary of the "Hail Mary." If you do your research, you'll see that the prayer says, "Holy Mary, mother of God pray for our sinners now and at the hour of our deaths."

Please to note: if Catholics worshiped creatures such as the Virgin Mary, they wouldn't be requesting that she bother praying herself.

When Catholics talk to Mary and the saints, they specify a desire to pray in congress with them. Not to worship them as they would God.

Reverend Mother · 02-04-2010, 10:18 PM

The Hail Mary, is meant to create a mantram, giving you access to God. This is not understood. The Holy Mary part was added on later, destroying the original purpose of the prayer. The "Our Father" is done incorectly as well, but they are not interested in it. The schism between the Orthodox Churches and the Roman Church is for centuries the Roman Church did not recognise the Holy Mother. The Holy Spirit is feminine. Don't mean to preach here. , sorry.

Graveyard Hound · 02-05-2010, 09:43 AM

Well I hope that is worked out to everyones satisfaction,not necessarily belief, but aside from "minor differences" to me anyway, we're prety much all in the same boat. We can work together and make progress with each other or some paddle one way, while some paddle the opposite, and we'll just go around in circles.

**CMF** · 02-05-2010, 09:48 AM

I dont know if I said it or not but I am not a big Catholic fan, I dont mind the parishoners, just the church structure I think is malevolent and twisted and actually ANTI christian imo.
If nothing else the Vatican is the last remnants of the Roman Empire in many ways.
They have done just terrible TERRIBLE things to people throughout history , not in the name of God, but to promote their agenda which uses the name of God as its banner but in fact the actions have been waaaaaaaaay less than Holy.

***CareTaker*** · 02-05-2010, 09:50 AM

(02-04-2010 09:43 PM)Pariah Wrote:
(09-09-2009 09:25 AM)CareTaker Wrote: In my opinion Catholics are not Christians. They do not follow Christ therefore they are not Christians.

How do you figure Catholics don't follow Christ? They're the ones who bothered to compile the writings of the apostles and the Old Testament, and then outline the Bible's philosophy for crying out loud. Are you speaking as if Protestants are somehow more Christian event though they followed a former clergyman?

I didnt say a word about Protestants. Please just read what I wrote and dont add to it. But siince you brought it up I don't believe most Protestants are too much different in the end. I see organized religion as a bad thing be it protestant or Catholic or other - all are mostly man made traditions and "picking and choosing" what to follow.