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Gnosis Of The Modern Age
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In all Truth Gnosticism holds the format of ultimate truth, Firstly its teachings manage to always remain rational no matter how much time passes.

Firstly Duality, Gnosticism realises that duality is a fundamental code of our existence, Light/Darkness, Life/death, Good/Evil, Positive/Negative, Nothing/Something .etc. In everything is duality there is always 2 or more simple differences such as good and bad, we have naturally been aware of this since creation, There is nothing and then there is motion/matter/thought/feeling/sense or simply existence.

Secondly the Demiurge and The Archons. Since its inception the concept of The Demiurge and Archons continue to be metaphorically correct of our existence, Firstly The Demiurge, the False God, Evil. The Truth is that we were created by some form of evil entity that we call the Demiurge, This entity may not be a man, a creature or a being at all, This entity may simply be Energy, A mind, or something unexplainable that we will be revealed through Gnosis and Ascension. It is rational that we are artificially created as we ourselves can imagine an existence and the universe is being commonly perceived to be of laws and of design by common science, this existence is imperfect and immoral, if it was the creation of an ultimate God or Entity it would be moral, perfect and correct. This material world simulation that we are trapped within is full of Archons which can be seen as Hedonism, Materialism, immoral culture, Social Identity and more immoral and corrupting entities that cause us to commit spiritual suicide and exist as something we are not, these cultures and false abrahamic faiths our deceptions that cause us Humans to divide ourselves and engage in hedonism and materialism at the expense of others happiness and lives. We are constantly teaching humans to be individual yet are isolating them through social and material culture leading to unhappiness and division. These Archons continue to assault our soul or conscious in order to prevent us from being spiritual and fully aware of our true self and existence. We are living in hell, the void of darkness and no light we are brainwashed to believe that this is the only stage of existence we are told that we must engage in hedonism and have to experience as much pleasure as possible before death no matter how immoral, we are crippled by our own insane fictional constructs like Political correctness and cultures, We are decieved by endless immoral illusions.

Morality is something we can naturally and instinctively be aware of, we are hardwired to understand the difference between good and evil, The reason we are not all globally united under one utopian state where everyone is equal and happy is because we divide ourselves with exclusive cultures, egos and hedonistic desires. we don't have to live the way we do, we don't have to let millions starve whilst we take our consumerism for granted, we don't have to rely on money to make the world function, We only believe this because we have trapped ourselves in this materialist system or commercialisation and privatisation of information and believe there is no way to reverse engineer this system that is working physically but not morally, We could live in harmony in a global utopia without any conflict or division and could provide shelter,Energy, food and purpose for every human free of charge, we could unite and technologically advance ourselves into being fully enlightened of this material world, we can ultimately Ascend from this Darkness and be aware and understanding of the unexplained, The Paranormal, the revelation of all. We must obtain Gnosis and Ascend from this deceiving plane.

Finally Gnosis and Ascension. It is clear that there is Gnosis or "hidden knowledge" in which we are not aware of, the Answers to the fundamental questions of life and existence, Mainstream Science likes to promote Nihilistic ideologies in which say this corrupting material world is our only existence and truth and that there is nothing divine or metaphysical about man. Mainstream science thinks they can solve everything through fictional constructs such as mathematics and collective empirical bandwagons when in fact there is endless possibilities and conflicting theories of our existence. Mainstream Science likes to denounce and dismiss metaphysical and spiritual scientific exploration, Paranormal Sciences such as ESP are mocked yet substantial evidence exists, even Nikola Teslas theories of Energy and Physics are unacknowledged despite being more logical than mainstream theories. The key to be Enlightened and happy is Gnosis, we must be aware of this Hidden Knowledge, it may be a science which may be supernatural, Divine or complex in which we are yet to be aware of or explain but once we are aware of it then we will be aware of all. With Gnosis we can Ascend, The Escape The Ascension of our Soul/Conscious from this corrupt material plane beyond the stars into the unexplainable,The Metaphysical, the Revelation of All or as some would say The Twilight Zone.

Accept that man is greater than God, Accept Gnosis, Ascend From Darkness
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#2
Gnostics: The New Age Evangelicals!

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*This is a photo of actual evangelicals. I was just showing you the gung-ho nature of the folks in the picture, so you could compare them to the ravings of the post above.
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#3
KaelisRa

You make a salient point, but ypou might note that Gnostic Christians seek a good God while Christians have become idol worshipers of a genocidal son murdering prick of a God that they somehow think is good.

Whose side would you like to be on?

Regards
DL
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#4
I’ve been a bit torn on how to comment on this.  On the one hand, yr obviously intelligent and articulate.  It’s not often I find such a thorough description of a personal belief on a forum.  On the other hand, yr also dogmatic (“In all Truth Gnosticism holds the format of ultimate truth” (sic)), rude and judgmental (“Christians have become idol worshipers of a genocidal son murdering prick of a God”) and, quite frankly, those sort of statements tend to undercut yr argument.  People who are confident in their position don’t generally need to resort to insults, nor do they start off by stating that all other opinions are wrong.


I agree that a great many people place their faith more in The Church, rather than in God.  However, who is to say that their choice is not the right one for them?  Different people have different needs.  Some need a purpose in life, some need a sense of community, some need a moral compass.  Do you really expect a single parent working two jobs to even have time to do enough research to know what Gnosticism entails?  Or is yr ‘ultimate truth’ only available to people like you and I, who have spare time enough to delve into ancient theology?

Have you read A Course in Miracles?  I’m guessing not, as not many people have.  Pretty much everything you express as the Gnostic view is in that (Christian) biblical text, except it goes one step further and eliminates Lucifer and demons (the Demiurge and archons) entirely.  You should pick up a copy, or you can download a PDF here, as it's an interesting read...  

http://www.miraclesinactionpress.com/dth...e%20OE.pdf

One thing that does confuse me about yr post is this whole ‘Man is greater than God’ thing.  My understanding of Gnosticism does not include that sentiment.  Can you please cite me a source or author who expresses that view?  I’m not saying yr incorrect in yr interpretation of Gnosticism… I’m saying my own knowledge is limited.  

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Overall, I enjoyed the post… but you might want to tone down the insults and the whole ‘I’m right and everyone else is wrong’ stuffs.  Not many people are going to bother responding, or even reading, yr posts if they feel like you’ll attack them if they disagree with you.  We’re all about the love here, not the judgments…
 

4 Nothing real can be threatened.
Nothing unreal exists.
5 Herein lies the peace of God.

-ACIM

Oh... KaelisRa... I find fault with yr comparison between Gnostics and Evangelicals.  You would never find that many Gnostics in one room...  ; )
 
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#5
@Mika; HAHAHA That was a good one. Well put!

@Enemy No.1 Gnostic;

Gnostic people seem to say one thing and do another. So far, I have watched both of you claim a moral system based on logic, but say that you search for a "god". You search for god, if you need to fill a moral void in your life. If you are incapable of working out right and wrong, god is there to supply a set of moral rules to follow.
Logic is not a god, and logic does not need a god to apply to morality.

Furthermore, and Mika pointed it out, there is a heavy focus on dogma. You hide under the guise of "logic" (of which you don't use) and then turn it into a dogmatic religion that undermines the strides logic can make.

Lastly, you approach the concept of the Christian God from a very personally offended stance. The idea that you can apply logic to morality, yet get so angry to the point of virulent insult to another person's personally chosen religion, shows that Gnosticism is not about applying logic to morality.

Morality is objectively present. Logic, applied to morality, is objective, itself. Objective logic does not succumb to emotive manipulation and anger. What you are practicing is not logic, it's ineffectively veiled wrath. Wrath is never moral. Stop being so angry all the time.

It isn't your business, what other people choose to follow as a religion. It's also no skin off your back, to choose to be a Gnostic. Either God doesn't exist and who cares, or God does exist, you're doomed anyways, so just live your lives as you see fit. Just stop harassing other people.
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(02-12-2018, 01:14 AM)Mika Wrote:
Quote:I’ve been a bit torn on how to comment on this.  On the one hand, yr obviously intelligent and articulate. 

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Quote:It’s not often I find such a thorough description of a personal belief on a forum.  On the other hand, yr also dogmatic (“In all Truth Gnosticism holds the format of ultimate truth” (sic)), rude and judgmental (“Christians have become idol worshipers of a genocidal son murdering prick of a God”) and, quite frankly, those sort of statements tend to undercut yr argument. 

Gnostic Christianity is a free thinking religion and is quite dogmatic on that for sure as we refuse to tie ourselves to one particular set of religious lies. the way Christians and Muslims have. 

We seek God perpetually and when we find what we think is the best ideology, after cherry picking the best laws and rules to follow from all sources, we raise the bar of expectations and seek anew. Even after apotheosis, which enforces that intelligent way to look for the best possible ideology.


We have not and will not settle for the God prick that Christianity and Islam follow.


Quote:People who are confident in their position don’t generally need to resort to insults, nor do they start off by stating that all other opinions are wrong.

Would you not have me do the Christian thing that Christians do not do?

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
 
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

Take Yahweh's genocidal son murdering nature. Should we not ask the literalist fools who follow such a God to rethink their position, or do you think we should just ignore those who like a genocidal God?

You might remember that their foolish beliefs have created a homophobic and misogynous religion.

For that evil to grow, all good people need do is ignore those immoral religions and the bastards who promote killing, denigrating or discriminating against women and gays without a just cause.

My question to you would be why you are not insulting more of those immoral rreligious bustards?  

Quote:I agree that a great many people place their faith more in The Church, rather than in God.  However, who is to say that their choice is not the right one for them? 

People who recognize the immorality of those religions. If you do not correct poor thinking then you are promoting it. That would make your morals no better than theirs as for evil to grow, all good people need do is not correct poor thinking.


Quote:Different people have different needs.  Some need a purpose in life, some need a sense of community, some need a moral compass.  

True, and their victims, gays and women, also also have that need which religions deny them.


Quote:Do you really expect a single parent working two jobs to even have time to do enough research to know what Gnosticism entails?  Or is yr ‘ultimate truth’ only available to people like you and I, who have spare time enough to delve into ancient theology?

Yes. And that ultimate truth is available to all.

Quote:Have you read A Course in Miracles?  I’m guessing not, as not many people have.  Pretty much everything you express as the Gnostic view is in that (Christian) biblical text, except it goes one step further and eliminates Lucifer and demons (the Demiurge and archons) entirely.  You should pick up a copy, or you can download a PDF here, as it's an interesting read...  

http://www.miraclesinactionpress.com/dth...e%20OE.pdf

I shall have a look. Gnostic Christianity has no supernatural content except for our myth, which was written to put against the Christian myth before they became idol worshipers and literal readers of their myths.

This link speak of those better and more enlightening days before idol worshipers took over the mainstream religions and started to kill for their Gods.

http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2


Quote:One thing that does confuse me about yr post is this whole ‘Man is greater than God’ thing.  My understanding of Gnosticism does not include that sentiment.  Can you please cite me a source or author who expresses that view?  I’m not saying yr incorrect in yr interpretation of Gnosticism… I’m saying my own knowledge is limited.  


Here is the short scriptural version that explains it with a link that expands on it a bit.

You will note that you have likely never heard a priest or preacher use those quotes as they say way to much for them to explain to their more brain dead sheeple.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
 
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
 
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

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Quote:Overall, I enjoyed the post… but you might want to tone down the insults and the whole ‘I’m right and everyone else is wrong’ stuffs. 

I do not usually phrase it that way.


Quote:Not many people are going to bother responding, or even reading, yr posts if they feel like you’ll attack them if they disagree with you.  We’re all about the love here, not the judgments…

 If you love those who follow a genocidal son murdering prick of a God, then you love your enemy and the enemy of the people with good morals. You would be no better than the homophobes and misogynists.

You might remember those quotes just above that say we should judge all things. You seem to want to cherry pick those sayings that suit your character, instead of choosing what the people need.

Quote:Oh... KaelisRa... I find fault with yr comparison between Gnostics and Evangelicals.  You would never find that many Gnostics in one room...  ; )
 

Actually, you would. It would be the group that does not kill his neighbor for not quite believing as he does.

We are not Inquisitors or Jihadists.

We believe that the God wars should be fought with arguments and not force of arms the way Christians and Muslims think.

You should decide whose side you want to be on. The women and gays in your family might benefit from your choice of fighting evil instead of letting it denigrate those in your own family.

As to man being greater than God.

Morally we definitely are as well as in how we can reproduce true while Yahweh can only reproduce a half breed chimera.

The man above God idea is older than Christianity. I find it in Karaite Jews, Buddhists and Gnostic Christians.

Remember that Jesus asked, have ye forgotten that ye are Gods and children of the most high?

Most people have thanks to the immoral religions who want slaves to themselves instead of free thinking moral people.
 
Regards
DL
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#7
(02-12-2018, 11:41 AM)KaelisRa Wrote: @Mika; HAHAHA That was a good one. Well put!

@Enemy No.1 Gnostic;

Gnostic people seem to say one thing and do another. So far, I have watched both of you claim a moral system based on logic, but say that you search for a "god". You search for god, if you need to fill a moral void in your life. If you are incapable of working out right and wrong, god is there to supply a set of moral rules to follow.
Logic is not a god, and logic does not need a god to apply to morality.

Furthermore, and Mika pointed it out, there is a heavy focus on dogma. You hide under the guise of "logic" (of which you don't use) and then turn it into a dogmatic religion that undermines the strides logic can make.

Lastly, you approach the concept of the Christian God from a very personally offended stance. The idea that you can apply logic to morality, yet get so angry to the point of virulent insult to another person's personally chosen religion, shows that Gnosticism is not about applying logic to morality.

Morality is objectively present. Logic, applied to morality, is objective, itself. Objective logic does not succumb to emotive manipulation and anger. What you are practicing is not logic, it's ineffectively veiled wrath. Wrath is never moral. Stop being so angry all the time.

It isn't your business, what other people choose to follow as a religion. It's also no skin off your back, to choose to be a Gnostic. Either God doesn't exist and who cares, or God does exist, you're doomed anyways, so just live your lives as you see fit. Just stop harassing other people.

I will when all religions are no longer homophobic and misogynous.

You would allow evil to grow. I will not.

You are a traitor to women so get thee behind me Satan.

You might wonder why the early church portrayed Satan as a woman.

Nah. You do not care enough to wonder why equality is a dirty word to Christians and Muslims.

Regards
DL
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#8
You have no idea what I "care enough" about. You assume my actions, but logic is not about assuming anything. Logic is about proofs. You haven't given an argument. All you've done is insult another person's religion, insult the people who believe it, and also insult those who don't agree with your stance.

There is no logic at work here. The entire Gnostic group is no different from the extremists of any religion. The only difference is: Gnosticism has no norm, save for extremism. Extremism is no basis on which to found a religion, or rather a cult, in this case.
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(02-12-2018, 02:37 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: You have no idea what I "care enough" about. You assume my actions, but logic is not about assuming anything. Logic is about proofs. You haven't given an argument. All you've done is insult another person's religion, insult the people who believe it, and also insult those who don't agree with your stance.

There is no logic at work here. The entire Gnostic group is no different from the extremists of any religion. The only difference is: Gnosticism has no norm, save for extremism. Extremism is no basis on which to found a religion, or rather a cult, in this case.

You obviously do not care for all the women who have suffered under religious misogyny.

You would subject your daughters to the same garbage your mother had to endure.

I am not sure what you wish me to argue against but I am quite willing.

Strange that you think I need to argue against the notion that genocidal God is good.

Or where you looking to argue for misogyny and homophobia.

Be specific and I am here for you.

Let's have your argument for whatever premise you think I am wrong about.

I do agree that we are quite fundamental in our beliefs, but we are also fundamentally for changing those beliefs if a better one comes along.

That is why we are Universalists and do not deny women and gays equality.

Would you like us to lose that fundamental belief and start acting like immoral Christians and Muslims?  

Regards
DL
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#10
I think it's quite ironic gnostics indulge in isms even though they seem to disagree with them. Since you despise Christianity, Islam, etc. Why not just reject religion and leave it at that?
 The woods are lovely, dark, and deep. And I have promises to keep. Miles to go before I sleep.
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