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Gnosis Of The Modern Age
#31
(02-14-2018, 11:49 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: I don't consider it a failure, Gnostic. I'd have to care to change your mind, in order to succeed. My goal is to make your concepts and reason look foolish, as you've been extremely belligerent in your treatment of Christianity. If you aren't intelligent enough to add 2 and 2 to get 4, there are plenty who can. Perhaps my posts are for them? Because I knew a few colleagues I've shown this to, who have enjoyed our back and forth to no end. xD

For a woman, you sure show poor morals by supporting a religion whose longest running victim has been women.

 Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.
 
Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.
 
Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.
 
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXk
 
Humanity centered religions, good. Yes.
 
 Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes.
 
Do you agree?
 
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#32
As a woman, i am tired of you using us as examples of how your religion is so much more equal. Every time you mention any other religion mainly Christianity and Islam, you say the same things and they sound like they’re quite personal. (BTW what is your stance on all the other popular religions? Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism.) Anyway, I don’t think Kaelis is a devout Christian by any means, he’s only trying to rationalize with your argument. Instead you always say the same thing. Accuse him of defending Christianity and mention that your religion is *not* homophobic or misogynistic. Like I said buddy, the least homophobic/misogynistic religion there is, is no religion. Good and evil do not exist, they are subjective to the individual. I like how you will probably disregard that line.
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#33
Chevaleia's scathingly worded paragraph of irrefutable logic is so good, there is barely anything I need to say. That being said, there are two points that were made, multiple times in the past, that I feel I must reiterate for you, Gnostic.

Point 1) You are generalizing entire religions. Whereas, there are actually many sects of Christianity and Islam that have not become "basically intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions". These sects have not "grown by the sword". However, because they don't fit your narrative, you disregard them. As willful ignorance usually does.

Point 2) "I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality." You aren't evaluating anything based on "morality". You are evaluating everything based on personal, poorly reasoned, subjective opinion. That isn't morality. That's a joke.
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(02-15-2018, 10:16 AM)Chevleia Wrote: As a woman, i am tired of you using us as examples of how your religion is so much more equal. Every time you mention any other religion mainly Christianity and Islam, you say the same things and they sound like they’re quite personal. (BTW what is your stance on all the other popular religions? Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism.) Anyway, I don’t think Kaelis is a devout Christian by any means, he’s only trying to rationalize with your argument. Instead you always say the same thing. Accuse him of defending Christianity and mention that your religion is *not* homophobic or misogynistic. Like I said buddy, the least homophobic/misogynistic religion there is, is no religion. Good and evil do not exist, they are subjective to the individual. I like how you will probably disregard that line.

The dictionary disagree with you, so yes, I will ignore your idiocy.

Apologies if a religion like mine that gives women and gays full equality offends you.

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#35
(02-15-2018, 11:30 AM)KaelisRa Wrote: Chevaleia's scathingly worded paragraph of irrefutable logic is so good, there is barely anything I need to say. That being said, there are two points that were made, multiple times in the past, that I feel I must reiterate for you, Gnostic.

Point 1) You are generalizing entire religions. Whereas, there are actually many sects of Christianity and Islam that have not become "basically intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions". These sects have not "grown by the sword". However, because they don't fit your narrative, you disregard them. As willful ignorance usually does.

Point 2) "I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality." You aren't evaluating anything based on "morality". You are evaluating everything based on personal, poorly reasoned, subjective opinion. That isn't morality. That's a joke.

The joke is you thinking that being homophobic and misogynous is more moral than not being so.

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#36
I never said that they were more moral. I said that you were wrong in characterizing an entire religion based on your own personal beliefs. That belief being the generalization that Christianity (in its entirety) is homophobic and misogynous. You are logically and factually wrong.

I will reiterate again, to back of Chev. You cannot appeal to the dictionary for evidence that proves something exists. It's bad logic. In fact, it's not logic at all. You're insane if you do, and I think it's getting close to that point.
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(02-15-2018, 02:24 PM)KaelisRa Wrote: I never said that they were more moral. I said that you were wrong in characterizing an entire religion based on your own personal beliefs. That belief being the generalization that Christianity (in its entirety) is homophobic and misogynous. You are logically and factually wrong.

I will reiterate again, to back of Chev. You cannot appeal to the dictionary for evidence that proves something exists. It's bad logic. In fact, it's not logic at all. You're insane if you do, and I think it's getting close to that point.

So it is bad logic to use common English that is well accepted by all.

Your logic is flawed and so is your use of the English language. Even this Frenchman can see that.

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#38
It's bad logic to use popular culture's definitions in an discussion dealing with the explanation of concepts and morality. Popular opinion is merely averaged subjective beliefs/biases. It has no place in an objective argument. If you can't see and accept that basic point, perhaps we're done here.

All that's left to do is leave a disclaimer:

***To all that wish to venture further beyond this point. Do so at your own risk. The beliefs and logic present are not well-thought out, nor are they reflective of the majority of religions and logical determinations of the world. If you are swayed by gestures of anger and wrath, this might not be the best place for you. There will be no more Sherpas to guide you through the darkness, should you fall. You have been warned!***
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#39
 
I was wondering when you’d come around, KaelisRa.  I stopped feeding this particular troll long ago  ; )

In that spirit, I’ll refrain posting anything more than a simple list.  A partial list, for brevity’s sake, as a comprehensive one would be thrice as long.  Still, anyone who seeks to generalize and claim that Christianity is anti-gay… these institutions would disagree.  In fact, every last one of them preaches that homosexuality is not sinful.

Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Alliance of Baptists, American Baptist Churches USA, Anglican Church of Canada, Catholic Apostolic Church in North America, Communion of Synodal Catholic Churches, Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, Ecumenical Catholic Church, Ecumenical Catholic Communion, Episcopal Church (United States,) Eucharistic Catholic Church, Evangelical Anglican Church In America, Evangelical Catholic Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada, Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals, Inclusive Orthodox Church, Independent Catholic Christian Church, Independent Greek Orthodox Church of the United States, Mennonite Church Canada, Mennonite Church USA, Presbyterian Church (USA,) Reconciling Pentecostals International, Reformed Anglican Catholic Church, United Catholic Church, United Church of Christ, United Church of Canada

That was just North America.  Worldwide…

Church of Denmark, Church of Scotland, United Protestant Church of France, Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland, Evangelical Church in Germany, Church of Iceland, Unitarian Church of Ireland, Protestant Church in the Netherlands, Church of Norway, Church of Sweden, Evangelical Lutheran Church in Geneva, British Quakers, Lutheran Evangelical Church in Italy, Christian United Church in Poland, Church of England, Church in Wales, Methodist Church of Great Britain, Evangelical Methodist Church in Argentina, Anglican Episcopal Church of Brazil, Lutheran Church in Chile, Costa Rican Lutheran Church, Episcopal Church of Cuba, Episcopal Anglican Church of El Salvador, Lutheran Church of Peru, Evangelical Church of Uruguay, Anglican Church of Korea, Church of South India, Evangelical Church of India, United Church of Christ in Japan, United Church of Christ in the Philippines, Dutch Reformed Church in South Africa, Methodist Church of Southern Africa, Uniting Presbyterian Church in Southern Africa, Uniting Church in Australia, United Ecumenical Catholic Church in Australia, Anglican Church in New Zealand, Religious Society of Friends(Quakers) in New Zealand

Anyhoo, I view this list as an addendum to KaelisRa’s closing of this old and tired thread.  If anyone has more to say, I’d suggest starting a new one…

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