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Voodoo is it real?
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I am new to this site so I apologize if I am posting this wrong.

I have always seen and heard spirits I have always been around them some bad some good I could always deal with them.I had just moved to this place and the situation was desperate so we had to take this place.The deal was we get rid of the last tenants things and clean it up and we could just move in and we agreed.I am not a religious person but I never mock anyone who is or their religion.Well we were cleaning out their things and I came across a childs to voodoo doll.I had bad feelings about it but the temptation to just stick a pin in it was just driving me crazy so I did and it was a stupid thing to do.I later just threw the doll away I didn't want it in my place at all.Later that night I was sitting in a chair and my bear figurines were placed just right above my head on a shelf.I looked at my bear and almost choked she had such an evil look to her and she was looking at me so evilish almost like she wanted me dead and she wanted to be the one to kill me.I had just told my oldest daughter I hated the way she was staring at me it was really creeping me out.I had looked down just for a few seconds and my oldest daughter cries she saw the ma and pa bear turn all the way around by themselves she was next to me the whole time she did not do it.The next day we my husband and I were digging through the last tenants things and we found satanic symbols on almost everything of theirs .We found bibles with satanic symbols drawn on almost every page and there were multiple bibles with the drawings.We found little kids drawings with satanic symbols and you can tell little children did those.The first night we stayed here I had such a severe nightmare about my youngest child being murdered I woke up laid in bed and cried.The first night we were here my youngest was having day terrors she didn't know if she was asleep or not .She has never did anything like that before.We cannot afford to move right now but any suggestions on how to clean this place up get rid of the evil ? If I don't do something I am afraid it will get worse.I have never ever messed with voodoo before I could shoot myself for touching the doll more than just throwing it away.Please forgive my writing I am a horrible speller and writer.
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#2
By "satanic symbols" you need to do a bit of research. A lot of the satanic imagery was created by Christians to villify the pagan religion, including basing the image of the devil off of pagan Gods. They could be symbols of protection.

Voodoo is completely unrelated and is real, in a sense that powerful hallucinogenic drugs and the power of suggestion are real. If you scare someone into believing they will be hurt by someone sticking a needle in a doll, it will happen psychosomatically. Also most voodoo spells involve breathing in or drinking something, later discovered to be hallucinogenic substances.

It could be that the previous tenants decided to mess with you. Sounds like something I would do.
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(12-19-2017, 11:41 AM)ThisisDog Wrote: By "satanic symbols" you need to do a bit of research. A lot of the satanic imagery was created by Christians to villify the pagan religion, including basing the image of the devil off of pagan Gods. They could be symbols of protection.

Voodoo is completely unrelated and is real, in a sense that powerful hallucinogenic drugs and the power of suggestion are real. If you scare someone into believing they will be hurt by someone sticking a needle in a doll, it will happen psychosomatically. Also most voodoo spells involve breathing in or drinking something, later discovered to be hallucinogenic substances.

It could be that the previous tenants decided to mess with you. Sounds like something I would do.
You mean if they intended it to be used for bad and I believed in it then it would happen because I believed it could happen and I basically did it to myself,but if I don't believe it could happen then i'd be fine.Ok I don't know what that doll was used for so I am going to have to say voodoo is not real if I don't believe at all in it I am ok then and I do not mean any disrespect to anyone's belief just protecting everyone.
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#4
I mean it's all in your head. If you convince someone that they have a bad back, their back will hurt. This has probably worried you so much that everything odd that happens makes you think of and attribute it to this. If you put it out of your mind, chances are you won't feel it's effect.
"Oh! Come on! Do you think I'm a gulla-bull? Or even a gulla-calf?"
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#5
Voodoo or Vodoun is quite real, still practiced in parts of West Africa, as well as in various Caribbean islands, the United States, mainly in cities as New Orleans, Charleston, Houston, New York. Brought from Africa by kidnapped men/women/children who were sold as slaves in the "New World". Their religion seems to be the one thing that slavery simply couldn't hurt the continued "rites" of their religion to be practiced. Some speculated that if some slave holders knew what was being practiced on or around a plantation, the slaves would probably be either set free or killed, which killing a slave that was of a high value to the owner, few owners would be that stupid or that frightened. Here in the South, it is always a subject to discuss, some folks seem to take it more seriously than others. Out of respect, hardly, fear, less likely but there always seems to be someone that knows someone that was "helped" by a local "wise woman"( not a witch) a "root doctor", and other titles. Pick a state and you'll probably have something like "it" taking place in it. Am 70 and grew up with it. I respect others beliefs, customs, traditions, etc. Some you just have learned to show a little more respect for than others. If you don't fully understand any religion, don't make "fun" of it and Voodoo and its followers supposedly don't take kindly to bein' laughed at.
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#6
Is Voodoo real.  Does it exist yes so therefore it must be real. What we are talking about is what you are feeling from what you have found, can that be due to you pinning the doll.  Ok Thisdog is right to a degree whereas if you believe something to be bad you can water that thought like a plant to make it grow and manifest which could be what is happening. On the other hand I have studied occult and I am also a pagan so I also know what also can be done and manifest from ritual. First rule is fear nowt accept fear itself. The more you think that what is happening and deeply believe it is so, the worse it will get because you could be creating it. So the first thing to try is to change that energy to a positive one. Get some sage to burn and walk around your house blowing it into every nook and cranny. Believe that this is clearing all the negative energy and that is will protect you also. By believing this will hopefully change your mindset but it will also work on another level. Also have a party which will also give more positive energy. If you can post the pictures of the symbols so we can see that would be nice also. Dont just throw things away burn them. :-)
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#7
Voodoo is in fact real. But what exactly is it?

I am certain that most of what "we" think about it is myth but I am equally certain that at the heart of it there is a basis of truth.

The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it. ~ Terry Pratchett

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#8
Voodoo, wiccan, occultist, shaman etc really are just different labels of similar practices.  Its all ritualistic magick.  Does it work absolutely if the practitioner knows what their doing.  It all boils down to that really. Within this subject their are those that really dont know what their doing. You could say the same about a mechanic.  Some are clueless where others are brilliant. It annoys me when I see what is being shown as the truth on paranormal sites that only gives skeptics ammo to blast out and put us under the same blanket. Look heres a picture of a ghost. Just pixels that your brain is shaping to make sense of it.  This is an orb, nope dust or insect reflections. Pictures incorrectly taken with long shutter speed now we have an anomaly and so on. In saying that those things do exist but rarely caught that way. Unfortunately this is the world we live in. So for me and my opinion only, does it work? absolutely from my own experiences. For those that disagree that is fine.  All I would  add is I will only want to believe you if that is from personal experience and not because the internet says so. To see and experience these things you have to put your self out and go to certain places and that isn't from behind a pc. I feel a good debate could rise out of this :-)
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#9
So much misinformation in this thread... makes me want to finish writing those 10 blog articles I started about 4 years ago. Meh. Maybe I'll c/p some of what I'd written.... My interest was more along the lines of Zombi and stories of the dead rising-- like Clairvius Narcisse and Felicia Felix-Mentor.

Voodoo dolls-- despite their name, are more HooDoo. Gris Gris, and the like are all elements of HooDoo. Gris Gris are the things like potions, tonics, herbs that grant luck, and dolls that control others. It gets mixed up with VooDoo all the time...

If you're interested in learning more about VooDoo, I recommend the following:

* "American Scientist Interviews: Wade Davis on Zombies, Folk Poisons, and Haitian Culture." American Scientist 75.4 (1987): 412-14.
* Zora Neale Hurston. "Folklore, Memoirs, and Other Writings". New York, N.Y. : Library of America : Distributed to the U.S. by Penguin Books, 1995. pp 456-474.
* George MacDonald Mulrain. "Theology in Folk Culture : The Theological Significance of Haitian Folk Religion". Frankfurt am Main ; New York : P. Lang, 1984. pp 42-49, 64-89.
* Kate Ramsey. "The Spirits and the Law : Vodou and Power in Haiti". Chicago ; London : University of Chicago Press, 2011.


Hurston's writings are very interesting-- waaaaay better than that horrid "Their Eyes Were Watching God" I was subjugated to read in high school-- being a black writer, she was allowed in some of the Hounfours in Haiti, even practicing in some of the ceremonies. She chronicled her adventures, and even has cadences for Rada Drums in her book. Very cool. Very detailed. And surprisingly interesting.

Davis' book focuses more on Zombi, specifically his trip to Haiti to discover how zombi are made. Now, these are the Hollywood version of Zombies from a George Ramero type film. This is the real deal... but it's actually more a metaphorical transformation than an actual person rising from the dead. Becoming Zombi is to become a slave, and the punishment is reserved only for certain crimes.

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about the HooDoo Doll.

Here's a selection from my unfinished Blog article titled:
Real Haitian Zombies:  A Crash Course in Voodoo


Quote:It's difficult for "westerners" such as myself to think of religion in a means that doesn't involve some aspect of Christianity, but Voodoo or Vaudou is not based in Christianity. The word vaudu (voodoo) comes from the Dahomean term vodun, which means spirit. As a religion voodoo posesses elements of French Catholocism and religions of the Amerindian tribes who originally inhabited Haiti (Theology p.63). According to famed American author Zora Neale Hurston "Voodoo is a religion of creation and life." The infinite and ultimate truth is the mysterious source of life--the spirit, and the veneration of reproductive organs plays an important role in Voodoo ceremonies for their life-giving role. Westerners may find this aspect of Voodoo to be obscene, but it is no different from upper paleolithic religions which worshiped venus figurines and other fertility gods.

Haitian gods, which are called loa or mysteres, are not a bastardization of Catholic saints. Loa are often represented by images of Catholic Saints because there is no universal uniformity in the traits of the various loa. Even the loa themselves differ throughout Haiti. Although the loa widely vary in their attributes, the most powerful of the loa have more widely accepted attributes. The most powerful of these spirits is Damballah.

DAMBALLAH
Damballah is a petro god-- a good god. (The inverse of a petro god being a rada god.) He is the most powerful mystere, and he is represented by the snake who is the maid-servant or "bonne" of Damballah. Because of the snake's role as servant to this loa, it is treated with reverence often to the point an outsider would mistakenly assume that the voodooisants worship the serpent. They do not. However, the image of St. Patrick is often used to represent Damballah because of his association with snakes.
Damballah is often called the serpent and his wife, Aida Ouedo (pronounced Way-doh), is often called the rainbow witch, giving rise to the title of the famous voodoo book by Wade Davis called "The Serpent and the Rainbow". Because Damballah is the supreme god in Voodoo, all other gods must ask for his permission to perform tasks for other ceremonies.
The day and time to worship this diety is Wednesday afternoon. The altar of Damballah must have the following things on it: the representation of a snake, a small crucifix, a bouquet, a bottle of liquor and a bottle of oil to keep his lamps burning on Wednesday, all day. Damballah resides within the snake on the altar. He is said to bring luck to those who faithfully worship him. Gifts given to this loa typically include fruits, sweet liquor, desserts and olive oil. Sacrifices to this god involve a pair of white chickens-- a hen and a rooster. The sacrifices to this deity guard domestic happiness.
A Voodoo temple which worships Damballah must also have shrines for Papa Legba (the opener of gates/opportunities), Loco Attison (loa of work and knowledge), the cross of Guede (the messenger), Erzulie, Mademoiselle Brigitte and brave Guede. The temples must face east with a door that opens on the west side of the temple.
Damballah is always fourth in the order of service, which is:
1- Papa Legba
2- Loco Attison
3- Mah-Lah-Sah (Guardian of the doorsill)
4- Damballah

Voodooisants keep a reverence and respect for Damballah. It is not common to ask damballah directly for something because when one makes "services" to other gods, they are indirectly making them to Damballah; but before you can talk to Damballah, you must open the gate to the spirits by invoking Papa Legba.

One of these days, I'll finish my blog articles.... but 'till then *shrug* Take it for what it's worth.
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