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The Warrior · 08-24-2009, 11:41 PM

That far out in front of the lens? Where is it coming from?

Bracket · (This post was last modified: 08-24-2009 11:46 PM by Bracket.)

(08-24-2009 11:41 PM)The Warrior Wrote: That far out in front of the lens? Where is it coming from?

It's actually closer to the camera but since it has the shape of a person, your mind is telling you it's farther away.

rebecca · 08-24-2009, 11:47 PM

(08-24-2009 11:46 PM)Bracket Wrote:
(08-24-2009 11:41 PM)The Warrior Wrote: That far out in front of the lens? Where is it coming from?

It's actually closer to the camera but since it has the shape of a person, your mind is telling you it's farther away.

umm. no.

UglyNRude · 08-24-2009, 11:48 PM

Ok first none of these pictures have exif information. So we don't know anything about what camera or camera settings.

The first picture is interesting, and it could be a number of things. One its partially transparent so it could of been something in motion, like a bug close to the camera, it could also be a spot or water on the lens. It could be a person walking, with a slow shutter speed they become transparent. It may It could also have been mist. Or could someone have actually captured a spirit? We will never know without the exif.

Second picture I agree reflection all the way.

Third picture has already been called smoke or breath, we don't know the the date or location so its just guessing. But if you google smoke or ghost and select image see what pictures show up.

The Warrior · 08-24-2009, 11:50 PM

I went back and looked and I have to say that is a guess. I have seen small stones and long stones...so I'm not going to just say ok on that. Next if it is breath or smoke....where is the stream? If wind if blowing...there should be a stream. If I am wrong please tell me how. I am really only trying to understand how to scientifically debunk this....and by the way...I think you have to prove without a doubt that it is something other than a ghost. Can you do that with this picture?

Bracket · (This post was last modified: 08-24-2009 11:56 PM by Bracket.)

(08-24-2009 11:47 PM)rebecca Wrote:
(08-24-2009 11:46 PM)Bracket Wrote:
(08-24-2009 11:41 PM)The Warrior Wrote: That far out in front of the lens? Where is it coming from?

It's actually closer to the camera but since it has the shape of a person, your mind is telling you it's farther away.

umm. no.

Uh, yeah.

(08-24-2009 11:50 PM)The Warrior Wrote: I went back and looked and I have to say that is a guess. I have seen small stones and long stones...so I'm not going to just say ok on that. Next if it is breath or smoke....where is the stream? If wind if blowing...there should be a stream. If I am wrong please tell me how. I am really only trying to understand how to scientifically debunk this....and by the way...I think you have to prove without a doubt that it is something other than a ghost. Can you do that with this picture?

If anything, you should be trying to prove that it's a ghost. If you go to any openminded yet scientific person and say that's your proof that ghosts exist, you'd be laughed out of the building.

Also, there could be no stream because they have finished taking the breath.

The Warrior · (This post was last modified: 08-25-2009 12:17 AM by The Warrior.)

That isn't my point. If the wind is blowing why is the smoke/breath standing still...so it appears. and No I wouldn't go to any person as this being my proof of anything. First of all I didn't take the picture so I am guessing at what I see. I brought you all pictures and stories of real experiences...and I couldn't care less if I get laughed away for those. I know the truth and that is all that matters.

My only question is why are you so fast to dismiss it as non-paranormal?

On a more personal note...I am not much of one for thinking it would be that easy to photograph a ghost. But I am interested in knowing how exactly to debunk this.

Let me explain it in this way and maybe you will understand. At this moment....Bracket, UNR we sorta stand at two separate ends of a spectrum. Me who knows these things exist and the two of you who are quite skeptical. I am willing to view your end of the spectrum if you can answer my questions. That is all I ask. It won't change my mind on my experiences...but I can tell you that I have been being haunted by spirits and demons for years and I have very little concrete evidence to give the world. Even the evidence I have can be debunked...but it does not take away from my experience....which truthfully cannot be debunked or proven.

Bracket · 08-25-2009, 12:36 AM

Warrior

The wind is blowing from behind the photographer, blowing it away from the camera. Making it appear thin ad tall. Basically, they took a breath then took the picture.

Also, i wouldn't use the word "skeptic" to all around describe me. But, like i've said, the supernatural should always be the last thing on your mind. Supernatural means "the unknown" so when you can explain it away as something normal or mundane, it's not unknown. That's what constitutes paranormal. The fact that there are so many ways that this can be easily debunked simply means that it's not paranormal.

**CMF** · 08-25-2009, 08:15 AM

Imo, the first one seems genuine to me, the second is a reflection fasho, and the last one is smoke,,,,pot smoke.

eyepriestess · 08-25-2009, 06:37 PM

After reading the girls mail then i read yours guys sorry... [Image: 209.gif]

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