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***K2M*** · 05-12-2011, 10:56 AM

Thank you UNR. I did look at post # 9 and thought the shadows odd. What do you make of it? I also saw the other pic. that you posted with the tree branches, it does look like it could be shadows of the branches, just not sure....

John_M · (This post was last modified: 05-16-2011 01:22 PM by John_M.)

(04-28-2011 05:47 PM)UglyNRude Wrote:

I wanted to look around this garden more so I searched it in google. I found some pictures and something stood out to me. Her pictures seemed to be taken at a higher elevation then others I have seen. I then noticed all the branches in the garden. It may have been she was shooting over a branch and when she zoomed in lowered the camera slightly to capture items on the branch as shadows.

I just talked to my Aunt about the pictures for some more information. She took the pictures from a level standing position, she was not elevated( She is tall so that is why the pictures seem to be taken at a higher angle probably). She said there wasn't any trees/limbs around where she was standing.

I zoomed in on the picture and the blackness seems to be enveloping the right corner of the chair, which is strange. The blackness that is down lower in the picture seems a little blurry around the edge, like that part is out of focus. What do you think might cause that? The picture is still a mystery to me.

**scarygirl67** · 05-17-2011, 11:57 AM

Any movement at all can make it go out of focus..but that doesn't answer what it is in the first place! I was wondering if maybe a bird flying nearby might have caused it..but it doesn't really quite look like a shadow from a bird. Plus, if it was flying that close, she would have noticed it.

UglyNRude · 05-17-2011, 01:18 PM

Does she have a lens hood on her camera? I experimented with mine and put a piece of twisted up paper in it and get a dark shadow like this so I think this at least shows it was something very close to the lens, that would also explain the blurriness of the shadow as the focal point was further out. Also the item may have been there the previous shot but didn't show up till the zoom was used as this extends the lens.

***Haunted Lady*** · 05-18-2011, 08:23 AM

Since exif info shows the date of the photo, checking the local weather for the particular date and having an idea of the cloud cover in the area might offer a batter perspective on the shadowing. Sunny and partly cloudy could be a reasonable explanation, and honestly it looks like cloud cover shadows to me.

**jadewik** · 05-18-2011, 09:52 AM

Was it breezy or windy the day the photo was taken? ... and does she have long hair?

The way the shadows cross the chair indicate that whatever is making the shadow is in the foreground of the photograph. I say this because the "shadow" seems to cover the area-- like it's in front of the area instead of on top of it, like a shadow would be. (Shadows tend to bend and are distorted perspective-wise based on where the shadow is being cast.)

So... whatever is making the shadow is something "freestanding" between the lens and the chair.

The distortion/fuzzyness of the object makes me think it's closer to the lens than further away, since the camera is focused on the chair and flowers in the background. This tells me that the object seems to be closer to the camera lens than farther away from it...

Which is why I suspect hair as the culprit... though it could be some other obstruction that may have been in front of the camera lens at the time the image was created-- a bug perhaps? *shrug*

**scarygirl67** · (This post was last modified: 05-18-2011 11:29 AM by scarygirl67.)

I'm wondering..if it was a cloud issue as LK suggested, if it was going directly over the sun at that time (and at that angle)..would it look like it was closer? (great job on thinking to check the day and weather conditions of the photo). Otherwise I would have to say Jade has a good point about it being something between the lens and the chair.

I will say this photo has brought some good thoughts forward!

John_M · (This post was last modified: 05-18-2011 03:55 PM by John_M.)

(05-17-2011 01:18 PM)UglyNRude Wrote: Does she have a lens hood on her camera? I experimented with mine and put a piece of twisted up paper in it and get a dark shadow like this so I think this at least shows it was something very close to the lens, that would also explain the blurriness of the shadow as the focal point was further out. Also the item may have been there the previous shot but didn't show up till the zoom was used as this extends the lens.

I'll talk to her again and find out about the lens hood. It does look like something could have been in front of the lens when the zoom was used on the second picture. She has short hair though, so something else would have to be the culprit.

I thought maybe shadows from the clouds could have created the darkness when I first glanced at it, but after enlarging the picture on the computer it looks unlike a shadow that would be on the objects, if it was coming from clouds. The blurriness around the blackness is what makes me think it is close to the camera.

Thanks to everybody for their ideas.

John_M · 05-30-2011, 03:00 PM

(05-17-2011 01:18 PM)UglyNRude Wrote: Does she have a lens hood on her camera? I experimented with mine and put a piece of twisted up paper in it and get a dark shadow like this so I think this at least shows it was something very close to the lens, that would also explain the blurriness of the shadow as the focal point was further out. Also the item may have been there the previous shot but didn't show up till the zoom was used as this extends the lens.

I talked to my Aunt again, she said the camera did not have a lens hood.

I don't know if this will help, but here is another picture she had. It was taken at the same time.

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