That's the thing, if the teams aren't conducting the investigations with the same equipment, the same critical thinking skills and the same methods...the results just won't be the same in any case.

When I see a paranormal TV show where nothing happens, and everything is explainable through scientific and research methods I will have a better view on the TV craze. Why? Because that is how the largest percentage (90% and above) of investigations generally work with reputable teams.

Any group that finds hauntings in 100% of the cases they investigate just can't be considered reliable in my opinion. And yes, evidence is faked or inflamed for TV ratings...every single week you watch the shows.

It would be fun for some of us here to get together and do an actual investigation.. i know we cant, but it would be an interesting experience....

A group that would include sensitives, psychics, mediums, equipment, skeptics, and such...

Although, in my case, if i enter a house or building, and i feel danger, i am out of there!!! I dont play with evil entities....

That's where I am different K2M. I have been described as 'fearless', which is funny cause I look like a librarian lol!

The only time I ever gasped out loud at an investigation was in moundsville prison death row and snapped a picture and got a wierd action so I turned on my flashlight to see if i bumped a setting on my camera and just as i did a bat flew up and brushed my forehead as I tried to toss my head out of the way. Now I have ..... innocent look heard a team founder scream. We had already checked out a small crawl space, well there was a 4 foot tall clown in storage at this place so .... again innocent look somehow it ended up standing behind the door of this crawl space. We then told the founder we thought we heard something in their, he opened the door with no light except his sony with infrared, well he let out a scream and jumped back a few feet before he heard us all laughing.

Innocent look my foot ROFLMAO!

So UNR are you saying that in all of your investigations you have never came across anything that you would claim to be paranormal?

Solid evidence? Lets say unexplained yes, was it paranormal? It was interesting. I was trying to do evp work and while nothing was captured, I seemed to be getting direct responses to our Mel meter As I asked questions the mel would spike when I asked questions about the fire at this home. This went on for 45 minutes. It would not respond when I asked any questions that didn't deal with the fire. So paranormal or coincidence? We were near a boat yard and an airport, also 100 yards from a factory, could it have been something from them? We were supposed to go back but I left the team before they did. Now team members had personal experiences on numerous occasions. So I'll go with unexplained. What other members had called class a evps' I wasn't so sure. Unknown footsteps in a basement of a large 6 story building on numerous occasions. Debunked as a civic center was nearby and women with big heels walking by would cause this sound in the basement. It comes down to if you leave with uncertainty go back and either reproduce it or debunk it.

(02-17-2010 01:01 PM)Haunted Lady Wrote:  That's where I am different K2M. I have been described as 'fearless', which is funny cause I look like a librarian lol!

You go ahead HL, i will just hide behind you, fearless lady,lol..

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Its ok not to believe in the paranormal, i know many people that just dont believe in it....i also know many people that have never had an odd experience, well they say that anyway. Some people tend to think that if they say they beleive in ghosts, that others will think they are nuts..

In my case,, hey,, maybe im a nut, but my life is a very interesting one.

(02-17-2010 02:56 PM)UglyNRude Wrote:  Solid evidence? Lets say unexplained yes, was it paranormal? It was interesting. I was trying to do evp work and while nothing was captured, I seemed to be getting direct responses to our Mel meter As I asked questions the mel would spike when I asked questions about the fire at this home. This went on for 45 minutes. It would not respond when I asked any questions that didn't deal with the fire. So paranormal or coincidence? We were near a boat yard and an airport, also 100 yards from a factory, could it have been something from them? We were supposed to go back but I left the team before they did. Now team members had personal experiences on numerous occasions. So I'll go with unexplained. What other members had called class a evps' I wasn't so sure. Unknown footsteps in a basement of a large 6 story building on numerous occasions. Debunked as a civic center was nearby and women with big heels walking by would cause this sound in the basement. It comes down to if you leave with uncertainty go back and either reproduce it or debunk it.

I appreciate your healthy skepticism and methodology.

I find the Mel Meter incident interesting. I have a K2, and have constructed a circuit to calibrate it. Believe it or not, aluminum foil has good RF/EMF shielding principles.

I speculate if I were in a similar situation, I would try to shield the meter as much as possible, and change meter position as I asked the questions. Certain high milligaus readings, "if believable and genuine", should be beyond the likelyhood of normal background noise.

My strengths are technical, not real world investigative. I'm currently working with some "experienced" investigators to remedy that.

From a personal perspective, I have had a few paranormal incidents that exceed my ability to scientifically/rationally explain. This is part of my drive to help determine "what" paranormal mechanisms are out there.

My Optimistic Scientific approach is almost oxymoronic. It is not pure scientific methodology. I'm currently coordinating with some noted Skeptics in the paranormal field, I think their contribution is "healthy".

Personally I see your contributions as keeping speculation at a minimum and valuable to the cause.

Now that is something that doesn't surprise me. My bet is that if you put any number of teams to investigate the same site, you might get different results as you have teams. Who said science isn't fool-proof?