Okay, this could possibly come across as playing ignorant here, but I thought it could spin an interesting discussion.

Have you ever considered that the reason we do not have full proof of the paranormal/ghosts/after-life is because we are not meant to?

I know that will give a get-out-of-jail-free card to those who believe and ignore other valid possibilities - but just consider this for a second.

Maybe we are not supposed to know the full truth, on this side of life.

Quite often, when people say they see ghosts, they report that the ghost/spirit dashes out, or goes through a wall and disappears. Like they don't want to be seen. I read an account of an EVP session where the alleged spirit was questioned and answered with comments such as "We can't reveal this."

Is this far too convenient - or are we supposed to stick to life while here rather than delving into something we are not yet part of?
Rather like a spirit trying to become alive and act and live as we do - should it be - and can it be - possible? Maybe there are boundaries and limits in place for a reason.

I just thought it was something to consider.

Just to add - I don't believe this myself, but it's something that is worthy of looking at.

I've thought that myself..that maybe some answers we just won't understand. But lately I have been finding so much more of what needs to be considered with it all. And I think it is in understanding fully of what is sometimes seen and heard that CAN be explained is where it will be separated of what can't be...and that's where some answers may come.

Am I starting to think that the equipment to really catch it hasn't been developed? Yeah, to an extent..or maybe it's just misuse of the equipment that is already available. And of course, the only way we can perfect how to use it is to keep practicing and learning with it.

But is it possible that there is something that keeps us from knowing? I just don't know. I used to think so, which is why I accepted so much more as paranormal than I do now. I guess it is possible..but I tend to think it is more that we just need to learn more about the equipment and keep testing things that are developed or suggested.

Interesting topic as always! =)

I think we are looking for it wrong, if it exists will we find it? No. Does it happen in the real world? I am beginning to think No. Do I think anyone will prove it one way or another? Not in my lifetime, maybe in some of the younger members lifetimes. What in my opinion will find it? Launch a huge expensive study of monitoring the brain, when a person claims to have paranormal activity monitor their surroundings with video but at the same time monitor their brain activity. If they see a dead loved one or even a ghost see what parts of the brain show activity. We might not need our vision to see the other side. It maybe electrical impulses that effect our thought process. Is it paranormal? If the person see's something then look at the Occipital Lobe of the cerebral hemisphere, this is where vision comes in. If no activity shows on the monitoring device look for what part of the brain does respond. Once we determine that we can then delve into another study.

Perhaps the magnetic field surrounding us stores parts of our lives. When our brain receives signals from this it may allow us to see these stored signals. Or perhaps our brain just plays back what is stored in it.

The sad part is all the false or wrong information that is already presented as paranormal that is explainable.

Its only when we start at the beginning of your experiences can we narrow down the path.

I too have wondered about this. I don't have a lot of time to post because I have to go to work tonight but just quickly I believe all the people who have said something like "We are not humans seeking a spiritual existence, but a spiritual being seeking a human experience." Were probably on to something. And then if your to more traditional type there's that story of a saint who was walking on a beach trying to understand the true nature of God. On the beach he saw a small boy digging a hole, the saint asked the boy "What are you doing" to which the boy replied "I'm digging a hole to fit the ocean in" when the saint heard this he just laughed and walked away. It wasn't until later that he actually got the message. But I must go I might be back later though .

I think we are all connected to some whole awareness that has many branches and many levels. And that this human experience may not be the most pleasurable or exciting we will experience.And actually we may just be in the infant stage of some sort in our development as beings.
This is a very hard concept for the when your dead your dead group to relate to but as Fiona asked... Are we meant to know? I don't think we are in the stage of our evolution to really grasp or comprehend our next awareness of self after this or what it encompasses.Because humankind is not even fully sure about what this existence is about.

I was thinking about this thread this morning, and I realized something. I think we are "meant to know" what is thus far unknown, simply by looking through history. Look at all the things that were not known a thousand years ago. Time, trial and error, and people seeking other answers have brought us into an age where we are able to talk on wireless telephones, drive cars that get us to our destination in a fraction of the time that feet and horses did, and cures for diseases that used to wipe out entire towns.

Everything we have now is the result of people seeking other answers and working toward advancement in knowledge. None of that came easily, and the search for the truth about the paranormal is no different. So yes, in my opinion, I think we are meant to know. Maybe not in this generation, but future ones will continue looking. Seeking knowledge is what humans do best when they are not trying to destroy one another.

Have you ever considered that the reason we do not have full proof of the paranormal/ghosts/after-life is because we are not meant to?
By who, who's responsible and where is the evidence?. Thanks.

DB

Well, I guess I am leaning toward there being a higher source. A God, a creator, an designer, an intelligence. Not neccessarily from any one religion, either. If there is a grander design behind this all, perhaps the idea is for us to not have influence/control/knowledge of things that don't concern us on this side of life... Anymore than a spirit (if it exists!) should be able to interact and intefere with us.

These are just thoughts/ideas/questions, not neccessarily a belief I cling to.

Well said, Fiona. I have never had issue with what people believe as long as they don't try to present it as the absolute die hard truth...and that is on both sides of the coin. I've had to do a lot of research for articles on ancient cities and one thing that I have noticed..there is a WHOLE huge big time frame that we have no CLUE what happened. Now that is not to say that the BS should fly just because we don't know..but I do think that it opens up possibilities to greater truths.

We're free spirits. We seek, question and eventually find answers and science is our best tool.