okay who wants to answer my question? honestly i dont know who to direct it at? ive never been involved with witchcraft and ive seen something i was curious about.

[im not stupid, i saw this on a documentary and i want to know if its possible]
have you all seen paranormal state on television? there was one that stood out as very interesting to me.a family called the group out because they were having trouble living in their home due to something the husbands brother had done.
he asked them one night if they had ever seen a shadow demon?when they told him no, he said he could call one up by opening a portal within the home.they said he proceeded to open the portal, and they saw a small figure run from the area he was in and into the kitchen. they said it was short and hooded.
the problem arose when it wouldnt leave, they continually had very violent issues within their house. the paranormal state group called someone within a local witches group [unsure what group so we'll just say witches group], to come out. she said that he didnt know how to close the portal correctly once he opened it. she performed some type of ritual to get it closed, and now im questioning, can someone actually perform this type of ritual and call these things up from below?
or was this an exaggeration?

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optimism...the doctrine or belief that everything is....

i shut my eyes so that i can see....

Color me curious too... I saw this show.

Yes, I do realize much is done for entertainment .... but I still want to know more about the possibilities and actualities.

Many of the dark magiks do attempt to open doorways and conjur spirits from below, including voodoo and some Satanic practitioners (though interestingly enough not all). I do believe that sometimes those attempts are successful. Shadow demons are the easiest to bring forth...and the hardest to get rid of.

That said though it's important to keep in mind that not all shadowpeople or creatures are demonic. In fact most are not at all...but instead accumulations of negative energy.

Would there be a portal suggesting open ended entry into the Earthly realm however? I don't buy that for one minute. That's the stuff of TV and Hollywood...that isn't the way it works. That's really just my opinion though based on my own studies in the field. I am sure others might think differently.

I didn't see the episode of PRS...but it surprizes me that they didn't just attempt yet another excorcism. That seems to be their thing, and much of why they lost me as a viewer a long while ago.

(06-21-2010 09:53 AM)Lady Kamae Wrote:  Many of the dark magiks do attempt to open doorways and conjur spirits from below, including voodoo and some Satanic practitioners (though interestingly enough not all). I do believe that sometimes those attempts are successful. Shadow demons are the easiest to bring forth...and the hardest to get rid of.

That said though it's important to keep in mind that not all shadowpeople or creatures are demonic. In fact most are not at all...but instead accumulations of negative energy.

Would there be a portal suggesting open ended entry into the Earthly realm however? I don't buy that for one minute. That's the stuff of TV and Hollywood...that isn't the way it works. That's really just my opinion though based on my own studies in the field. I am sure others might think differently.

I didn't see the episode of PRS...but it surprizes me that they didn't just attempt yet another excorcism. That seems to be their thing, and much of why they lost me as a viewer a long while ago.

and LADY KAMAE, the reason i ask this is because im still trying to grasp the idea of shadow people or shadow demon, ive heard both names. my generation came up in the typical ghosts and demons , atmosphere. i had never heard of shadow figures until probably 2-3 years ago. still i have'nt gotten a complete understanding of this.
when you say a buildup of negative energy, in your opinion, [okay ,im confusing myself] how does a buildup of negative energy form itself into a shadowfigure? i just am having trouble with that. i do have experiences on a weekly to monthly basis, but ive never dealt with nor been around anything like this to form my own opinion. it sounds like you may be able to explain this to me so i can understand a little better..

I am a Witch and I cast circles. There is many reasons why Witches cast Circles mostly to bless an area of the house and deem it sacred and all your Magicks will be preformed in and around the circle. Also to call on many dietys and Fea and all kinds of creatures. But a circle is also cast to assure nothing will escape from it also. Its a protection barrier that goes both ways it protects the witch the summond or conjured spirits and or the nature outside of the circle.
For instance if I was to want to conjure a demon and allow it to go free or release it unto the our existence last thing I would want is a Circle. An Alter yes but not a casting circle.
Unless I wanted to harness it then release it but then I would even need to close the circle.
But yes if you had something that was opened or unleashed you could get a Coven or even a Highpriestess to close it.
Also Elfie on Paranormal state is a Witch she has been trying to get the production co, to allow for different beliefs and religions to cleanse homes and propertys other then Catholic charms and Exorcisms although ratings are showed to get higher when these types of shows air also it is more well known for cleansings and negative energys so more widely asked for the Catholic or Christian approach.

(06-21-2010 10:55 AM)parasearch Wrote:  and LADY KAMAE, the reason i ask this is because im still trying to grasp the idea of shadow people or shadow demon, ive heard both names. my generation came up in the typical ghosts and demons , atmosphere. i had never heard of shadow figures until probably 2-3 years ago. still i have'nt gotten a complete understanding of this.
when you say a buildup of negative energy, in your opinion, [okay ,im confusing myself] how does a buildup of negative energy form itself into a shadowfigure? i just am having trouble with that. i do have experiences on a weekly to monthly basis, but ive never dealt with nor been around anything like this to form my own opinion. it sounds like you may be able to explain this to me so i can understand a little better..

In order to stay on topic, I will start a thread in Energy Work.

(06-21-2010 01:50 PM)GypsyMoon Wrote:  I am a Witch and I cast circles. There is many reasons why Witches cast Circles mostly to bless an area of the house and deem it sacred and all your Magicks will be preformed in and around the circle. Also to call on many dietys and Fea and all kinds of creatures. But a circle is also cast to assure nothing will escape from it also. Its a protection barrier that goes both ways it protects the witch the summond or conjured spirits and or the nature outside of the circle.
For instance if I was to want to conjure a demon and allow it to go free or release it unto the our existence last thing I would want is a Circle. An Alter yes but not a casting circle.
Unless I wanted to harness it then release it but then I would even need to close the circle.
But yes if you had something that was opened or unleashed you could get a Coven or even a Highpriestess to close it.
Also Elfie on Paranormal state is a Witch she has been trying to get the production co, to allow for different beliefs and religions to cleanse homes and propertys other then Catholic charms and Exorcisms although ratings are showed to get higher when these types of shows air also it is more well known for cleansings and negative energys so more widely asked for the Catholic or Christian approach.

thank you gypsymoon, i knew you were out there somewhere.i was waiting on you to answer that question. thanxxx

I've seen the particular episode you're referring to, and if I'm not mistaken, it actually was a shadow demon they were dealing with in that case.

Yes, things like that can be conjured up. However (and obviously I don't speak for every person in the world) generally the people who call up things like that tend to be practicing very dark forms of magick and are a majority of the time participating in things I would almost classify as satanic. In Wicca and Paganism, most people are generally working towards positive goals, and wouldn't call up something like that for a wide variety of reasons.

However, to clear up something I'm worried you might be confused about: Casting a circle does not in and of itself call up anything. Casting a circle is a form of protection, and is for the purpose of keeping out unwanted influences (like energy that might screw up your spell work) and helping you to focus your own energy on the task you're performing.

Hopefully that made sense. I'm also glad to know someone else out there watches Paranormal State. I enjoy their show quite a bit. (:

(06-21-2010 09:55 PM)Xenophon Wrote:  I've seen the particular episode you're referring to, and if I'm not mistaken, it actually was a shadow demon they were dealing with in that case.

Yes, things like that can be conjured up. However (and obviously I don't speak for every person in the world) generally the people who call up things like that tend to be practicing very dark forms of magick and are a majority of the time participating in things I would almost classify as satanic. In Wicca and Paganism, most people are generally working towards positive goals, and wouldn't call up something like that for a wide variety of reasons.

However, to clear up something I'm worried you might be confused about: Casting a circle does not in and of itself call up anything. Casting a circle is a form of protection, and is for the purpose of keeping out unwanted influences (like energy that might screw up your spell work) and helping you to focus your own energy on the task you're performing.

Hopefully that made sense. I'm also glad to know someone else out there watches Paranormal State. I enjoy their show quite a bit. (:

so in fact you can call this thing up , you simply cast the circle to protect yourself from it once it arrives?

Since I'm not a practitioner of anything negative or particularly evil, I wouldn't know any specifics on how that should really work. I just know that in spellwork in general, you always cast a circle to protect you from unwanted influences. In this particular case, you would be casting a circle to protect you from the demonic entity you'd be calling up afterwords.