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I recently wrote to a paranormal researcher by recommendation on the sleep paralysis and some paranormal coincidences? that seemed related to it. It's starting to make me nervous. I have had recurrent sleep paralysis now for over two years I think. It has gotten less bad. I also seem to 'project' while sleeping or in the dream state and try to will it away through calling up guardian angels etc. It's not fun at all, it's quite scary.

I get the physical sensations, and this is why I feel kind of weird putting that down. I do feel it physically when I have gotten attacked in the sleep paralysis. One time, I was actually in my room with the light on and literally yanked right into it and that was terribly freaky. That hasn't happened often...
It is not physically damaging, but I feel it and so it haunts me....and it's draining. I'm not sure what is causing it right now still....there are a few possible explanations but I'm never really sure.

I have had some positive dreams recently though. I'll call it a male shadow type person, it manifested in my dream a few nights ago and I actually threw him off me and he turned into a young male adult. He smiled like he was a friend.

And the dream painted it to be more psychological, but how can a psychological thing manifest in this way? It seems a little 'too real' to be self-created. I would like to believe it is self-created actually, but I don't. There are some things that pointed to it being more--it sounds stupid but for a short time I was getting blamed for objects appearing in weird places.
I am sure there is some explanation for that though.

I recently began wondering if it is neurological or may do with something like partial seizures. So if this is the case I'd be pretty relieved...I wonder if it would be helpful not to believe it is anything until I know for sure which I admit has felt impossible. But it has gotten to the point where sometimes I don't want to sleep because of this sleep paralysis type experience.
I think it IS possible it is just my imagination as I do seem capable of some pretty out there dreams. This is just so different from them as my dreams usually don't even consist of nightmares or bad characters even.


Any suggestions or advice? I'd appreciate it a lot thanks!!
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I don't think i've seen this thread before. Sorry.

I have had sleep paralysis many times and it happened enough for me to investigate it. The conclusion i came to, one which most people on here will probably disagree with, is that there is no supernatural connection to it what-so-ever. Much of the research i found says that it happens when you wake up during a deep sleep and are still in that deep sleep. It's a proven fact that when your body goes into REM sleep, your brain turns off your muscles so that you don't act out your dreams. You may say that you have seen people move while they sleep, the answer to this is that when people are rolling over or adjusting their position, they are not actually in REM sleep.

You only go into REM sleep for a short period of time, multiple times a night. In other words, you have multiple dreams a night. Sleep paralysis happens when you wake up suddenly during REM sleep. Your brain still hasn't turned off the mechinism that paralyzes your muscles and in turn, thinks you are still dreaming. So, many sleep paralysis experiences involve a feeling of a being in the room or even the belief that the person is being attacked, these are essentially waking dreams. Many studies have shown that people actually have sleep paralysis often but as soon as it's done, the person usually falls asleep afterwards and forgets about it.
I used to really believe that ALL sleep paralysis was paranormal. My only experience with it scared me so badly. I have read a lot about it, and there is a lot of evidence that it is a natural body phenomenon.

I know that sleep paralysis has accompanied some paranormal activity, so I can't be sure if there isn't some connection in certain cases of it...but the more I read, the more I see that it does happen naturally. To me, just because it isn't paranormal doesn't mean it isn't frightening.

Have you been to a doctor to see about a possible sleep disorder? Not that sleep paralysis is necessarily a sleep disorder, but it is interferring with your rest. I am sorry I didn't see this thread before, and hopefully you can get some more suggestions and advice on the subject.
(11-06-2009, 08:55 AM)scarygirl67 Wrote: [ -> ]I used to really believe that ALL sleep paralysis was paranormal. My only experience with it scared me so badly. I have read a lot about it, and there is a lot of evidence that it is a natural body phenomenon.

I know that sleep paralysis has accompanied some paranormal activity, so I can't be sure if there isn't some connection in certain cases of it...but the more I read, the more I see that it does happen naturally. To me, just because it isn't paranormal doesn't mean it isn't frightening.

Have you been to a doctor to see about a possible sleep disorder? Not that sleep paralysis is necessarily a sleep disorder, but it is interferring with your rest. I am sorry I didn't see this thread before, and hopefully you can get some more suggestions and advice on the subject.

That's the funny thing. I know I don't have a sleep disorder. Though I have had some odd experiences here's one example of paralysis that was coupled with a spiritual tone: It was after dark at a camp in the blue-ridge mountains after the girls had had their parting ritual--we had gone into a grove with candles and had this sort of ritual for fun. All of us who were leaving- so a lot of people.

I was fast asleep or sleeping lightly when I heard a sudden moaning on the wind. It felt to me as if the mountain was speaking...but it was most certainly not a human or one of the girls. I heard a voice, it sounded Irish.
The voice was also female and the woman was not old or young. She sounded like an adult.

She whispered the same thing over and over, into my ear and suddenly I went into a trance or paralysis. I was frozen and I heard her speaking: "Tir Nan a Tir Nan a Tir Nan a" I'm almost positive this had been the exact words. One of the other girls woke up and I woke up scared. I told her that something was scaring me, but I don't remember if I told her then about the voice.

But here was a case, a perfect example of sleep paralysis with a spiritual tone to it. It wasn't just me sleeping bad, I was AWOKEN out of sleep by the voice which was in another language and accent...it could have been that girl scout ritual that woke this spirit up.

So lately I have been doing much better, anyways, from the sleep attacks.
The presence is distinctly male and always pinning me down and trying to subdue and hurt me. It used to be more strong, I would simply feel sucked under...but I began fighting it back. Not just with myself but I have started praying to the angels and I am not a strong believer in God. But it seems that the praying does aid me in getting it out or away.

I believe I may have gotten "rid" of whatever it was...because last night I had a very vivid dream where I was conscious and not attacked by anything...though I woke myself up because I was worried I would be.

I don't know if people are reluctant because they think it's not true or because they think I'm possessed? Because I seriously have questioned that...though I am not taken over in the dreams just a part of me seems to be controlled--it would have to be right? In order to be attacked something then what would have to change? I guess the main thing is consciousness, and that's where it got me. I am just so relieved that I've made it stop for so long.

If you've also experienced sleep paralysis or to the extent that I have, I'd suggest trying to pray or evoke angels/avatars. It seems sometimes that is the only thing that works, and waking myself up or consciously attacking him. It may be that this being is formed through consciousness, like that it's made of conscious energy mixed with spiritual or animated energy. I don't know for sure what it is....but promise I'm not exaggerating. If anything I'm leaving a lot out.
I am very much aware that any sleep disorder is not "fun", with or without any "paranormal" aspects included. Just curious if you have a series of sleep studies, min. of at least 4 or 5 to get a baseline. Some neurologists recommend medication, others suggest "yoga type" mental exercises,more controled sleep patterns, same time each night, warm milk, a hot soak in the tub, etc. It can be very upsetting but it is controlable and can be controlled rather let it controlling you.
(11-06-2009, 09:49 AM)Graveyard Hound Wrote: [ -> ]I am very much aware that any sleep disorder is not "fun", with or without any "paranormal" aspects included. Just curious if you have a series of sleep studies, min. of at least 4 or 5 to get a baseline. Some neurologists recommend medication, others suggest "yoga type" mental exercises,more controled sleep patterns, same time each night, warm milk, a hot soak in the tub, etc. It can be very upsetting but it is controlable and can be controlled rather let it controlling you.

Thanks for the suggestions. Those are all great ways to get sleep but it doesn't seem to effect my sleep cycles. It's probably more of me and my attempts to astral project or lucid dream. I think I would do a sleep study though, sometime when I can.

The paralysis is not fun at all. It's pretty annoying and I wake up feeling drained... I should mention it hasn't happened in quite some time, but my sleep cycles have been completely off and I've been smoking too. The only subtle difference is that I've started praying before bed.
I will look at this from a different point of view. Does it happen every night or just a lot? When I experienced this I had guests so i slept in a the store part of my home in a small room surrounded with high voltage. This was the only time i had it so I relate it to high emf's. So I recommend moving your bed, moving any electrical appliance away from your bed. Try this and see if any changes.

I would also recommend keeping a log to track of what you eat and drink to see if a type of food or drink triggers it. Your can be effected by electrical and chemical elements in your brain. A sleep study may be something you need if these simple solutions don't help. Now you mentioned being in girl scouts? The age can cause your hormones to go out of wack also, so a chemical imbalance may be occuring. Remember if this doesn't go away to seek professional help.
(11-06-2009, 10:37 AM)UglyNRude Wrote: [ -> ]I will look at this from a different point of view. Does it happen every night or just a lot? When I experienced this I had guests so i slept in a the store part of my home in a small room surrounded with high voltage. This was the only time i had it so I relate it to high emf's. So I recommend moving your bed, moving any electrical appliance away from your bed. Try this and see if any changes.

I would also recommend keeping a log to track of what you eat and drink to see if a type of food or drink triggers it. Your can be effected by electrical and chemical elements in your brain. A sleep study may be something you need if these simple solutions don't help. Now you mentioned being in girl scouts? The age can cause your hormones to go out of wack also, so a chemical imbalance may be occuring. Remember if this doesn't go away to seek professional help.

It has pretty much gone away. I noticed a few times it happened that it seemed related to something electrical or in the summer I was sleeping on the couch, lots of static electricity and I felt like I was being shocked. I can often times hear higher pitched frequencies like in my old bedroom I heard a frequency no one else heard and it was so loud I couldn't think. It could've been anything, even the fireplace. I had to move downstairs it was so bad. I'm ultra sensitive in that regard, usually it worsens with caffeine. With the girl scout thing I don't think it was at all hormones or anything like that.

It could have just been a strange dream, and the irish language could have been invented. Except that I found something that corresponded to that years later and was so sure...but you know--psychic transferrence...blah blah. I have had one confirmed shared dream, one precognitive dream of an exact place and unfamiliar object confirmed. I have occasionally pulled numbers to equations etc. that I wouldn't have known usually after I've had lots of caffiene.
It's like...there's a blur...there's a line and it blurs from two places-- scientific speculation and paranormal phenomena.

I appreciate the insight but you guys are so skeptical. It's one thing to narrow down what it might be, it's another to quickly jump to conclusions.