When you see people matrixing photos you have to wonder what would happen if everyone did it. See how many faces you can find and how many of the circled ones stand out to you.
Untouched circled version.
![[Image: gravesite-1.jpg]](http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff69/Ashleykaye11/larkim/gravesite-1.jpg)
Are these the full size versions? I think I'd have to see a full size to know whether or not I see any faces at all. Just right off from this photo, I can't see any. Even the matrix variety.
I am not sure whats going on here as I am really not a photographer of any kind and My interests lie elsewhere, but what is the point you are after with this thread? what are the things you circled? I dont "see" any faces at all. am I missing something?
I see them. Good examples.
Ugly and Rude...it took me only a second after becoming familiar with this forum a little better to see what is going on here, I have come to enjoy both you and Mr. Soulfly for different reasons. You..I am beginning to rather enjoy our exchange of conversation in to a level of paranormal that few if any ever reach for serious indepth intelligent conversation, as I have see many irreverent and useless contributions of "I see it", "good job" types that offer nothing and would be better respected if they would not even bother to comment. This thread was a shot toward Soulfly's photography...you must have made thread this in anger?
Well for what ever reason, I am going to say Cheep shot!
For what ever reasons the friction between you and him exist, I am going to say, don't let professional competition become a factor in as much to flippantly disregard what Soulfly can obviously capture so well and contribute to the science of the paranormal. I myself have certain colleagues I vehemetly disagree with and have had many heated conversations with, but at my level of involvement even if I disagree with methodology I still would never stop to childish public attacks..Soulfly I am going to say has something unique and valuable to offer and to be able to consistently bring to the table many unexplainable photographic captures..the like of no other I have been able to find anywhere. I can tell you I have seen lots and have been in the paranormal field many years.
I guess this was my lecture for this morning..as I am always saddened when personal differences are allowed to overshadow what I deem is very valuable contributions made by an individual.
(02-28-2009 08:36 AM)Cassiel Wrote: [ -> ]Ugly and Rude...it took me only a second after becoming familiar with this forum a little better to see what is going on here, I have come to enjoy both you and Mr. Soulfly for different reasons. You..I am beginning to rather enjoy our exchange of conversation in to a level of paranormal that few if any ever reach for serious indepth intelligent conversation, as I have see many irreverent and useless contributions of "I see it", "good job" types that offer nothing and would be better respected if they would not even bother to comment. This thread was a shot toward Soulfly's photography...you must have made thread this in anger?
Well for what ever reason, I am going to say Cheep shot!
For what ever reasons the friction between you and him exist, I am going to say, don't let professional competition become a factor in as much to flippantly disregard what Soulfly can obviously capture so well and contribute to the science of the paranormal. I myself have certain colleagues I vehemetly disagree with and have had many heated conversations with, but at my level of involvement even if I disagree with methodology I still would never stop to childish public attacks..Soulfly I am going to say has something unique and valuable to offer and to be able to consistently bring to the table many unexplainable photographic captures..the like of no other I have been able to find anywhere. I can tell you I have seen lots and have been in the paranormal field many years.
I guess this was my lecture for this morning..as I am always saddened when personal differences are allowed to overshadow what I deem is very valuable contributions made by an individual.
All I can say is I if anyone .... not just me disagrees with mr Fly he attacks them. Its not this forum as he has been booted off others for the same tactics. The way I look at it is you control your own content. This is www world wide web, if you post something for people to comment on don't be upset if they do and it doesn't agree with you. I do notice you praise everything Mr Fly posts and attack most of what I do. .... hmmmm looks fishy.... Well as i said you can post what you like. I am not here to argue and maybe this site isn't meant for people that debunk garbage photos. We have spent years proving matrixing and its sad to see so many sucked up by these type photos. Well maybe i'll leave this forum as it seems to have taken a turn for the worse lately.
(02-28-2009 09:28 AM)UglyNRude Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2009 08:36 AM)Cassiel Wrote: [ -> ]Ugly and Rude...it took me only a second after becoming familiar with this forum a little better to see what is going on here, I have come to enjoy both you and Mr. Soulfly for different reasons. You..I am beginning to rather enjoy our exchange of conversation in to a level of paranormal that few if any ever reach for serious indepth intelligent conversation, as I have see many irreverent and useless contributions of "I see it", "good job" types that offer nothing and would be better respected if they would not even bother to comment. This thread was a shot toward Soulfly's photography...you must have made thread this in anger?
Well for what ever reason, I am going to say Cheep shot!
For what ever reasons the friction between you and him exist, I am going to say, don't let professional competition become a factor in as much to flippantly disregard what Soulfly can obviously capture so well and contribute to the science of the paranormal. I myself have certain colleagues I vehemetly disagree with and have had many heated conversations with, but at my level of involvement even if I disagree with methodology I still would never stop to childish public attacks..Soulfly I am going to say has something unique and valuable to offer and to be able to consistently bring to the table many unexplainable photographic captures..the like of no other I have been able to find anywhere. I can tell you I have seen lots and have been in the paranormal field many years.
I guess this was my lecture for this morning..as I am always saddened when personal differences are allowed to overshadow what I deem is very valuable contributions made by an individual.
All I can say is I if anyone .... not just me disagrees with mr Fly he attacks them. Its not this forum as he has been booted off others for the same tactics. The way I look at it is you control your own content. This is www world wide web, if you post something for people to comment on don't be upset if they do and it doesn't agree with you. I do notice you praise everything Mr Fly posts and attack most of what I do. .... hmmmm looks fishy.... Well as i said you can post what you like. I am not here to argue and maybe this site isn't meant for people that debunk garbage photos. We have spent years proving matrixing and its sad to see so many sucked up by these type photos. Well maybe i'll leave this forum as it seems to have taken a turn for the worse lately.
I praised you first! As I believe we have a different relationship in our discussions. I believe if you re-read you will see my compliment to you on a level I consider a great compliment from me. Not one I give..I feel both of you to be each a great asset in both areas of you specialities.
though as different each of you are, I consider both very proficient. That's why a cheep shot like this thread is below you..U&R..I would love to see two of such talented people in exchange of diplomatic debate but still in the end with respect for one another and each acknowledging the contributions of the other. I don't attack you, U&R I like you, or I would not take time to have well constructed and referenced replies to your posts. I like to debate the paranormal with one who has a valuable input, I do not ever take personal any statements made to me in disagreement, in fact it stimulates me to find someone with enough fire and intelligence to run with me, for this is rare for me!
Well maybe I will continue this discussion tomorrow or monday, have an investigation tonight and a few hundred miles to travel. To busy at the moment. But I promise to get back with you.
Carpe diem
Just so everyone knows I have deleted several posts from this thread. While it is fine to disagree with one another outright arguing and insults are not permitted here.
UglyNRude, in my opinion, posted this thread to show that people might see "things" in any photo. No particular member was mention in the OP and I do not see an attack or cheap shot directed at anyone.
I was actually contacted by 2 different people regarding Soulfly, including the owner of another forum, who warned me that Soulfly was banned from forums for constantly insulting those who did not agree with him. I sort of ignored those two messages because I dont think it would be fair for me to judge someone because of an email I received from another person. I certainly wouldnt ban a member because of it.
Soulfly and UglyNRude - I appreciate both of you being members here and I do not want to see arguing, insulting and hard feelings against each other just because you dont agree with one another. If anyone post photos, or anything else for that matter, do not expect that everyone will agree or see what you see.
As I said, it is fine for someone to disagree but Please refrain from insults and out downs.
(02-28-2009 09:50 AM)UglyNRude Wrote: [ -> ]Well maybe I will continue this discussion tomorrow or monday, have an investigation tonight and a few hundred miles to travel. To busy at the moment. But I promise to get back with you.
Carpe diem (yes my friend)
Absolutely Mr.U&R I look forward to talking with you again, good luck on your investigation I look forward to seeing your evaluation of the site.